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Why Your Savings Might Be Unsafe

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By Laura Starkey | 26 March 2008

In the wake of the Northern Rock crisis and the Bank of England's latest pledge to make more money available in markets, it's no surprise that consumer confidence in financial institutions continues to dwindle.

Where once the idea of a bank collapsing seemed nothing short of crazy, now we are merely (yet repeatedly) reassured that it is unlikely.

I suspect that many fast-thinking Fools will have acted to secure their savings last year, as soon as the Rock crisis exposed holes in the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS). Still more of you might have moved your money when the FSCS announced changes to its rules in October.

In an attempt to stabilise shaky faith in the system, the FSCS upped the amount of money they would guarantee in the event of a bank's collapse to £35,000 per institution. So if you're lucky enough to have more than £35,000 put aside for a rainy day, the prudent approach is probably to split your savings into separate chunks of £35,000 at various banks.

There is a catch, however.

Different accounts - and even different banks - don't necessarily count as different institutions under the FSCS's regulations. In order to do so, banks must have separate registrations with the Financial Services Authority (FSA) - but mergers and take-overs can mean that several banks might share the same FSA registration. To guarantee that your savings are as safe as possible, you need to know which banks are in bed with one another.

Looking at names alone won't tell you all you need to know about which banks are connected. Should the worst happen, having savings with both Halifax and Birmingham Midshires, for example, could turn out to be a very expensive mistake - even though there is nothing obvious linking the two.

Below, we reveal the big name savings providers that are grouped together under the FSCS's rules. Avoid having more than £35,000 saved in any of the eight groups listed here in order to make sure you aren't caught out in a crisis.

(1)    Lloyds TSB, Cheltenham & Gloucester

(2)    Abbey, Cahoot

(3)    The Co-Operative Bank, Smile

(4)    Yorkshire Bank, Clydesdale Bank

(5)    Royal Bank of Scotland, Direct Line

(6)    Bank of Ireland, Post Office

(7)    HSBC, First Direct

(8)    Halifax, Bank of Scotland, Birmingham Midshires, Saga, The AA, Intelligent Finance

One exception to this rule is NatWest, which - although owned by Royal Bank of Scotland - runs as a separate institution. Having money saved with NatWest won't affect any savings you might have with RBS or Direct Line should problems arise.

If you're still not 100% sure about your own situation, take a look at a website called How Safe Is Your Money? Input how much cash you have put by, where you've saved it, and the website's tool will calculate how much of your money you might lose if your savings providers went under.

The Mortgage Angle

And this issue could also affect your mortgage too.

If you owe money to an institution as well as have savings with it, your compensation allowance could be calculated in relation to your debt.

Put simply, this means that if you owe a bank or building society £135,000 on a mortgage but also have £35,000 in a savings account with it, the bank would merely cut your outstanding mortgage balance to £100,000 in the event of a crisis. That could be bad news if you had plans for your cash. 

Finally, some good news: if you have joint savings accounts with a partner or spouse, the FSCS's guarantee is doubled to £70,000 per institution. Remember, though, that this is common sense rather than kind-heartedness - twice the protection can only be offered to twice the number of individuals, so it only applies if your account is officially in two names.

> You might be hit by similar problems if you try to transfer a balance from one credit card to another. Read When Balance Transfers Go Bad to see which cards are linked.
> Visit The Motley Fool's Savings Centre for a great range of savings accounts.

Comments

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At 20:58 on March 27 2008, avonside26 said:

I thought Mr Darling was putting the recovery limit per Bank up to £100k ?

At 09:02 on March 28 2008, oswizuk said:

Useful to know this, but there seems to be one big "hole" missing here:

MF has ben advocating the high-interest savings accounts of some of the foreign banks...
Iceland's Kaufthing and Icesave, India's ICICI Bank
Ireland's Anglo-Irish Bank etc.

This article does not mention whether these accounts are subject ot FSA regulation and potential reimbursements, if they were to go bust.

Elsewhere here on MF and from other financial journalists, these banks are perceived as being higher risk institutions. As a result of their perceived exposure to the current sub-prime lending debacle, they get charged - and so have to offer - higher interest rates for inter-bank lending.

Are these "safe" places for £35,000 on deposit? If not, may be a health warning should be attached to the "Best Savings Rates" Tables found on MF.

At 10:15 on March 28 2008, TMFVertigo said:

Hi oswizuk. All the banks you mentioned are covered by the FSCS. In some instances they are covered by schemes from their own countries first, and whatever you don't recover from those schemes, the FSCS will make up the difference to £35,000. Neil (a TMF writer).

At 10:32 on March 28 2008, JRAY100 said:

'Finally, some good news: if you have joint savings accounts with a PARTNER or spouse, the FSCS's guarantee is doubled to £70,000 per institution.'
PARTNER is actually in the broader sense... for example, two business partners, a trust set up for two, someone widowed and a child, et cetera... really any two fully entitled named people...

At 10:50 on March 28 2008, hambledon said:

All this talk of which bank is secure.....SURELY NORTHERN ROCK ......the government underwrites it...think about it?.....nuff said

At 14:06 on March 28 2008, bosun88 said:

Why don't Banks use CDS's (Debt Swaps/insurance)to safeguard depositers' balances - it would cost HBOS about £18 for a £65,000 CDS for 5 years cover. ie.£3.65 per year to safeguard £100,000 (CDS quote for HBOS on 26/3/08 was 281p per £100, A&L 480p, Kaupthing(Iceland) 902p.
CDS rates are quite a good indicator of the risk assessment per Bank.
The dynamic duo/Batman & Robin = Brown & Darling are f**king useless (just slipped out!)

At 16:31 on March 28 2008, pelleeds said:

Does anyone know if Stocks and Shares services run by banks are also covered by these limits? Is it best to spread your share holdings between dealers?

At 18:46 on March 28 2008, caseyuu said:

All my savings are in the bank offsetting my mortgage. Should I move money over £35,000, or keep it there, reducing my interest and capital debt?

At 22:09 on March 28 2008, trevw100 said:

What about ICICI Bank UK the one with generally the highest interest rates for straight on line savings accounts, much advertised in Fools various articles

At 22:32 on March 28 2008, sanwhi said:

If your money is in a high interest fixed term account, would it be wise to limit it to about £33000? Presumably if you invest £35,000, you would have to forfeit the interest if the bank went bust.

At 16:28 on March 31 2008, goldpaw said:

A Northern Rock savings account is the gold-standard at present with the Government guaranteeing 100% of all moneys invested in a Northern Rock account. Forget the £35,000 limit of all other banks - N. Rock guarantees 100% of all moneys. How Loudly Can I Say it!!!!

At 12:54 on April 11 2008, TMFLaura said:

Thanks for all your comments! Those of you who are interested in how the FSCS affects those with offset mortgages can read my new article, 'Be Careful With Offset Mortgages'.

At 22:57 on April 24 2008, Daytona2 said:

The Icelandic banks have been victims of a propaganda campaign. See these posts from someone who's lending them millions -

http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=10982613&sort=whole
http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=10994683

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