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Published in Manage Your Finances on 6 June 2008

The credit crunch has helped one bank become a good all-rounder. Find out which one (and no, it's probably not who you think)...

These days we live in a modern free-market world with lots of competition. And that applies to the financial market. Many of us look for the best deals for each financial product we take out, and as a result we end up as customers of a wide range of banks and building societies. 

Trouble is, dealing with more banks can mean a bit more hassle. So I thought I'd take a look and see whether there is a good all-round bank out there.

And in my opinion, the credit crunch has helped one bank stand out from the crowd. That bank is Abbey.

Having lingered in the background for quite some time, Abbey has pulled its socks up and is now appearing on many best buy tables. Here's why...

Mega Mortgages

One area where Abbey has pulled ahead of the competition is mortgages. As the credit crunch continues to squeeze other lenders, forcing them to shut their doors to many new borrowers, Abbey has welcomed them with open arms.

Abbey has been able to do this because of the funding available to its Spanish parent bank, Santander through the European Central Bank, allowing it to take an almost 16% share of the UK mortgage market in the first quarter -- almost double the share in the previous quarter.

Abbey's current best fixed rate mortgage has a rate of 5.84% until 02/09/2011, which is pretty competitive in today's mortgage terms. You will however need to stump up a 20% deposit to qualify, and there is a booking fee of £999. Higher rates are available for those with a 10% deposit.

But Abbey does not have a blemish-free record on mortgages. In fact, only weeks after heroically announcing that it was lowering some of its fixed-rate mortgage rates by 0.17%, Abbey recently increased the rates on its fixed rate deals by a whopping 0.56%.

Mind you, the increase did follow a 0.5% jump in the cost of wholesale money borrowing -- and Abbey wasn't alone in increasing its rates. Other lenders such as Nationwide quickly followed suit.

Canny Credit Cards

Abbey's Zero card has caused quite a stir in the credit card market recently. It offers a remarkable 0% on both balance transfers and purchases for six months with no fee. There are also no foreign exchange transaction fees or cash advance fees meaning Abbey Zero is a good all-round contender for your wallet.

So good in fact, that I couldn't resist applying for one myself.

Admittedly, the card only provides a short term solution for those wishing to transfer larger balances, and if you do have a significant balance to transfer, you may be better off with a card that offers a longer deal, such as Capital One's Platinum MasterCard, which gives you 0% on both balance transfers and purchases until September 2009 -- that's a gigantic 15 months' interest free credit. However, unlike the Abbey Zero card, Capital One charges a 3% fee for a balance transfer.

In my case, during my last holiday I spent nearly £22 on overseas transaction fees alone, so I see my application as an investment (well, my conscience does anyway). If you're a regular jetsetter and don't already have a good credit card for overseas use, then this credit card might also prove useful to you.

Clever Current Accounts

When it comes to hunting down the best deals, current accounts are often the forgotten products of the best-buy world, and many people are reluctant to switch because of the hassle involved.

However, the process is a lot more efficient than you think, and in return for a couple of signatures, most banks will do it all for you.

If you're willing to switch your current account, Abbey will give you a choice of either 8% credit interest on balances up to £2,500 for the first twelve months, or 0% interest on an agreed overdraft for the same period of time.

After the initial 12 months, the in-credit interest rate reverts to 2.5% (£1,000 monthly credit required). This may not seem a lot, but it is still 25 times the rate paid by Lloyds TSB, NatWest, Barclays and HSBC on their standard current accounts.

Sassy Savings

There are plenty of good savings deals to be had at the moment. However, unlike many of the table-topping savings accounts on the market, Abbey's Instant Access Saver not only gives you 6.5% on your savings, but after you've opened the account, you are free to walk into any branch to deposit and withdraw funds over the counter.

This is good if you need instant access to your money, as internet transfers can take up to three working days. It is also a good account for those who like to deal with their finances in-branch, as opposed to having their money floating in cyberspace.

You do need to bear in mind that the rate comes with an introductory bonus of 1%, payable for the first 12 months, and you need at least £1,000 to benefit from the best rate. If you prefer to operate your account online, it's best to stick with a high interest paying account with no introductory bonus and more importantly, a rate guarantee.

For example, recently lowering its minimum balance from £1,000 to £100, the Kaupthing Edge savings account pays a straightforward 6.5% and offers a guarantee that it will be at least 0.3% above the base rate until March 2012.

Likeable Loans

Generally, when you apply for a loan, the less you borrow, the higher your interest rate. However, Abbey's loan has a typical APR of 7.9% which applies to all amounts from £1,000 - £25,000, so is well worth considering if you wish to borrow a smaller amount of money.

As always, rates may talk as far as the numbers are concerned, but what about customer service? Often overlooked when it comes to choosing a bank, good customer service often goes a long way.

Admittedly, Abbey hasn't had the best reputation in the past. However, perhaps they are turning a corner.

Brokers at The Motley Fool Mortgage Service say that Abbey has held up well compared to other lenders when it comes to getting your mortgage sorted. As ever though, any comments on Abbey's customer service levels, especially in recent times would be greatly appreciated.

When it comes to choosing a bank, I'm not saying that you have to place all your eggs in one basket. However, Abbey does provide a good alternative to the 'big four' banks, with some pretty nifty products on offer at the moment.

Whether this continues is yet to be seen. But in the meantime, I'll be waiting for my Abbey Zero card to arrive in the post...

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CunningCliff 06 Jun 2008, 2:27pm

Why go with a bank when you can go with a building society? For my money, the best place on the high street for personal financial services is Nationwide BS.

No shareholders to enrich means that Nationwide can concentrate on giving good deals to its customers. To back this up, its recent financial results were excellent.

Cliff (big fan of mutual societies)

Darka 06 Jun 2008, 3:41pm

Hi Cliff,

The problem with Nationwide is that there are no shareholders to force the drectors to limit the pay awards they give to themselves.

They are not as friendly as you'd think.

regards,

SammyJnr 06 Jun 2008, 4:32pm

Abbey?!! I'd definitely pick Abbey if I liked to queue all day, be ignored by staff that can't be bothered and then have to wait forever to get my money back (6 months to close an account!!! that must be a record). Not to mention the call centres! 7 mintues for a transfer between accounts already linked of £200!

Pick a bank that gives you great service:
First Direct for your current account (no interest but who cares when they keep your stress levels at zero?) Fantastic switcher service too - yes I did move from Abbey!

Bradford and Bingley for your savings(always great service in the branches and top rates, especially for savings bonds as it's in their interest to increase cashflow at the moment) and your insurance (they broker so you get the best deals).

For mortgages? Take the best rate you can get, wherever it is but do allow plenty of time to complete the process as then you won't have to pay extra when the servicing lets you down.

Ignore Nationwide and Halifax, their service is almost as bad as Abbey.

Smaller building societies often have good rates periodically and good service as they're small enough to still be in touch with their people.

Top tip - choose somewhere where the staff look happy. If they're looking miserable they're probably busy dealing with upset customers all day or being asked to do unethical things to get sales.

Milwaukeee 06 Jun 2008, 5:41pm

It's well-documented that Abbey does have the worst customer service in the industry. It is shocking that the author did not even mention this.

TMFSUZY 06 Jun 2008, 5:57pm

Hola Milwaukeee,

I can see this conversation exploding into a 'knives into Abbey' thread, so this is my attempt to try and stop the dam from bursting...

The 'best' and the 'worst' are always going to be a matter of opinion. Personally, I think that Alliance and Leicester is even worse, but that's because of my own experiences with them.

If you did scroll to the end of the article, I did question Abbey's service (take a look, I kid you not) and welcome all feedback received.

So fire away. Just know that I'm not going to tattoo 'I heart Abbey' on my left bicep any time soon. I just think they've improved their products immensely over the past year.

I could go on, but it's Friday, it's late, and to be honest...I need a drink!

Have a good weekend,

Szu

johnhulton 06 Jun 2008, 6:48pm

Szu has obviosly never tried switching an isa out of Abbey. I applied 2 months ago - they wrote on 14 May to say they had sent the cheque but 3 weeks later I'm still waiting. I've written snail mail, email and even tried the telephone but cannot seem to get a straight forward answer. In fact I will challenge the author to get an answer from Abbey in my case. In my opinion they are a disgrace to financial services and deserve to be heavily penalised by the regulator for the cavalier way they deal with customers money. I honestly cannot believe you are recommending them as the best bank. I have reported them to the financial ombudsman. I understand from my new isa provider there are many such problems with Abbey.

wackorash84 06 Jun 2008, 8:03pm

Dear Szu,

Abbey probably provide a lot of fantastic deals! However, when it comes to providing a decent customer service, I have never seen any worst. Myself and my partner were fascinated by their ISA offer and took advantage of it on the 1st week of April but it took them 2 months as they made numerous mistakes in the process of opening the account, where my partner got 2 accounts opened for her eventhough there was only one application form submitted. Also, it took them 2 months to get our ISA funds transferred in. When we enquire of the mistakes and delays, their customer service advisors don't have a clue most of the time. Return calls which were promised were not made. Also, since the Direct Isa which they offer only can be dealt with by phone, post or internet, it takes them 10 working days to process a cheque that we banked in by phone. To make matters worst you have to use the 0845 number to contact Abbey's customer service department. All the extra interest that we would have gain would have been spent on calling them! Please for those of you out there who are thinking of getting an Abbey Credit Card, Mortgage or Savings Account. Please do think twice before proceeding! You've been adviced.

holly2005 07 Jun 2008, 12:37pm

i think its not just down to which bank, but also which branch you use. for example i have had savings with Abbey for many years, last year i noticed 2 lots of £300 had gone out from my atm card on the same day, Abbey only allow £300 per 24 hrs, they told me that the 2nd lot was withdrawn just after midnight yet would show on the records as the same day, utter rubbish, they can tell the exact time and date of each withdrawral. I had to write several times and was told that I had taken the money, I had not and do not drive 12 miles to my nearest branch to withdraw money at that time of night. However the money some weeks later found its way back into my account, when I asked them to explain where the money had come from they would not say, so I withdrew the money, on a possitive note my daughter tried to open a current account in the same branch (16-18 yr old) and they were quiet rude and pushy wanting to know what accounts I had, at 16 my daughter is old enough to have her own current account, my business is my business. On a day trip to Newport yesterday she opened the same account with Abbey, hassel free and with 6% interest, so maybe its down to the individual branch

Doodlewho 07 Jun 2008, 2:43pm

Are you serious? Britain's best all-round bank??? Have you never used them or tried to close an account with them? When I used them before closing all accounts with them their level of incompetence was consistently without equal.

Don't you read any newspapers or don't you believe the Observer or the Sunday Times when they say that they get more complaints about Abbey than all the other banks combined. Or ask their own staff. Even the manager of my local Abbey branch said he wouldn't risk having his main curent account with them.

Sorry, I really question the judgement of anyone who describes them as "Britain's best bank".

skiffer1 07 Jun 2008, 8:58pm

I would (and do) recommend First Direct to everyone. They are always contactable (any time of day or night), completely reliable and always helpful.

rouge14 07 Jun 2008, 10:49pm

I switched to Alliance and Leicester to take advantage of their 6.5% deal for in credit customers which is calculated daily and paid monthly. Yes it goes down after 1 year intro rate but attatched is a Plus Saver account which pays 5.5%. Its so easy to use to transfer anything over 2.5K into and I will use it after 12 months for my main credit surplus.After all I only use it to park money in temporarily..... The switch was efficient and took about 6 weeks as advertised. The staff in my branch are always friendly,and sexy! The biggest impression was I took up the offer of a free financial review. I really wanted a possible inheritance tax issue explained without expensive legal fees. The matter was explained in an easy to understand way and I feel reassured now. I knew there would be an attempt to sell me a financial product but when I declined politely it stopped straightaway.
All in all Im very impressed with my banking experience with A and L so want to contribute a positive comment.
I know their business plan is almost as flawed as Northern Rock but hey GB and AD and the good old taxpayer are always there to sweep up the mess!

drsusanna 08 Jun 2008, 6:56am

Thank you all for these comments! I might have been tempted to join Abbey, as I am not too happy with my Halifax account.
I would like to add a really positive point of A&L: their charge for using an agreed overdraft (in my case £5000) is 50p per day to a maximum of £5 per month, which must be hard to beat anywhere,surely?

plilikoi 08 Jun 2008, 8:05am

CapitalOne's platinum credit card sounds great, but good luck getting one. So far no one on MoneySupermarket has responded that they received the advertised terms. CapitalOne offers all applicants a shorter interest-free term and then doubles the regular interest rate compared to what they advertise.

seanturner83 08 Jun 2008, 8:19am

Don't the FSA stipulate that they have to agree the typical rate to a certain minimum percentage of customer's in order to advertise it in the first place? I'd be really hacked off if I applied, (after they wrote to me, personally, again, to try and push their card onto me) and discovered that I'd just added another search to my credit file with no benefit...

sharewatcher 08 Jun 2008, 9:09am

I find it extraordinary that a financial adviser would recommend Abbey. There customer service is truly appauling. They have no email facility on ebanking so emailing produces a standard reply which tells you to phone them. Calling by phone is by a centralized number. You cannot call your local branch. You end talking to someone in India who insists on security questions even if you have just a simple request and who doesn't understand you or you them. A simple request for an annual interest statement went through all of this and produced no result after doing it twice and waiting three weeks between each try. Santander has been a disaster for Abbey.

lionel186 08 Jun 2008, 9:28am

My son, who is a Police Officer was recently refused a loan by Abbey on the basis that they are only lending to Doctors, Nurses and Teadhers. Anyone else had this experience?

killickbecki 08 Jun 2008, 10:48am

I'd like to respond to Sammy JnR's comment about Nationwide and Halifax customer services. Personally i've been banking with Nationwide for a very long time. Not only have they answered all my queries quickly, either by contacting my branch directly, using their online e-mail service or by using their call centres but even the couple of times i went overdrawn by accident they didn't charge me a penny (even though it was unauthorised). I didn't even have to contact them, it was done automatically.

Now with Halifax, i opened some accounts with them when they were the highest rate for regular savings. Again, i couldn't complain about customer service, i had a couple of problems with standing orders and they were very helpful.

I have to say with Abbey, i opened an account a couple of years ago and decided against using it as i found a better deal. I haven't tried to close it yet as it has £1 in it so i can't comment on their closing customer service. They were quick to set up accounts though, via online request.

sov15ski 08 Jun 2008, 10:58am

I am not Indian, but I find that ICICI bank is excellent, and I am able to transfer money to and from a nominated account on line. The service and advice is second to none, adn the interest rate on savings is one of the best around these days, which lets face it overall is pretty poor.

The safest bank now would be Nothern Rock, as it is Government Guaranteed, after nationalisation.

cwat123 08 Jun 2008, 2:43pm

Sure, everybody can make their judgement on a bank based on their own experience, but for a financial adviser making such comment on Abbey bank is shocking and also can be misleading to all the readers who receive regular emails from the ‘Fool’. We have to spend our valuable time to read these articles. I have banked with Abbey long time ago, but have never been impressed about their products or services. Sure, each bank has its tactics to provide some market leading rates for a short while; you get gain also get loss if you make mistakes. For the ISA account I believe nobody has ever experience mine when I opened a Barclays Tax Haven ISA since March, it only opened this week after I submitted a complain letter 2 months ago, and still hasn’t put my money which is awaiting from another account into this very precious account yet. Same as some comments here, nobody seems know anything about it when I called them through the phone, the cost for 0845 number is tremendous, but still nobody ever come back to me with an answer yet.
So you see, a good bank doesn’t necessarily offer a good rate, a lot of them are the same really...

fenemore 08 Jun 2008, 5:13pm

My strategy is simple - if it ain't a British bank, I don't use it. If I use a bank and it gets bought by a foreign company, I leave it. If it is British but sacks British workers in favour of cheap foreign call-centre labour, I will have nothing to do with it. This strategy leaves me with a greatly reduced choice - but has served me well, plus I can sleep at night!

jmwag 08 Jun 2008, 7:02pm

wackorash84: Have you never heard of saynoto0870.com? That'll give you a geographical number for Abbey customer services. I used it a couple of days ago myself and, sharewatcher, the number it gave was not in India, but Milton Keynes. And I was dealt with politely and efficently.
Regarding transferring ISA's out of Abbey, I've done that too, speedily and without any problems. I guess it does depend on the branch you go into. Abbey is not a branch-based bank, so you do not have to deal with the branch where you opened your account. Any branch has access to your account in the same way as if you had opened it there.

kujar 08 Jun 2008, 7:46pm

Abbey, since being taken over by the Spanish provide appalling service. They changed my wife's name to a Ms somethingelse. Even after two visits to their branches they would not reinstate her name on our joint and her personal accounts. So she could not talk to their call centre staff about her own accounts. After 5 months and a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman they have partially reinstated her name on her accounts. Though she still has Bill Payments in Ms somethingelse's name. They would not let her close her ISA account as it was not in her name. Finally they added her name (or most of it) and her address to some unfortunate's account and started sending statements for this person to my wife. Unbelievable, like BAA the Spanish turn "gold" into "bronze". No wonder they have to provide a "high" rate of interest. We are not buying and are gradually moving our money out!!!

mitsie2 08 Jun 2008, 8:21pm

HA HA HA was my reaction when I read that Abbey is the best bank for whatsoever reason. Between me and you; Are you serious? I have been with Abbey for about 5 years and my husband longer. We have an existing loan with them and later applied for another. The loan was approved on the phone, with the promise that we get the contract in the post. With days past without receiving this letter we gave them a call just to find out the loan was refused. OK if that was not bad enough we then picked up a letter at our old address with the contract for the loan. Notice our old address. Just to find out what was going on we returned the agreement and there was no record of this on the their system. Each time when we try to change our address; our letter end up somewhere else; now com'mon get real. A bank should atleast be able to get these simple things right.

johncunliffe 08 Jun 2008, 8:36pm

you must be joking and have been paid by the abbey to make your statement. you obviously do not read the weekend papers which are packed weekly with complaints about the abbey. i wrote to them 4 years ago about a very simple request and i.m still waiting a reply. when i rang on the first anniversary the girl said the abbey would need a little more time to respond than the "week" i had given it. i pointed out i wrote in july 2004 and it was now 2005. i could go on but don't have the time or space. now be serious with your choices.

Kitxp123 08 Jun 2008, 9:03pm

fenemore...
I'd love to know which banks you are able to use. Can't be many 'pure british banks' left now.
A ridiculous idea. What will you do when there are none left?
Hide your money under your matress?
If so, be careful...it may have been "made in china".

Beagle2Mars 08 Jun 2008, 10:02pm

Abbey is incompetent. It took a whole year to register my change of address. It wouldn't have bothered me except it was my main account. In January I was hit with £100 bank charges because I could not understand the Indian call centre I rang for help! That's discrimination against British mother-tongu but there is no point telling them. While we continue to accept bad service that's what we'll get. I'm switching. I can't decide which bank/bs is least likely to go under but for customer service Nationwide and C&G get my vote .

gillianswain 08 Jun 2008, 11:07pm

Id vote Abbey as the worst also. I was made a widow 11 years ago, so in order to keep a little nest egg for the future for myself I went to see Abbey and invested £7,000 in a Maxi-Isa (I had explained my circumstances to the Account Manager/Supervisor saying that I wanted a MEDIUM to SAFE risk). She quoted 12% projected interest to me. Well then 9/11 happened and that was used as the reason my investment fell to around £5,000 but I stuck with them realising that it was a "medium to long term project" (they suggested not less than 5 years). Well, I've now been with them 9 years and last year when the stock market was at a high Abbey managed to make a profit of £200 (above the £7,000) for me (they pulled back to £7,000 a couple of years back)i.e. total profit in 9 years £200. In the same period last year, my man friend, who has no formal training in the stock market, managed to make a profit of £3,000 when Abbey's "professional" Managers managed to make me £200.
I would have done better to put the money in an ordinary savings account. I accepted some risk with my maxi-ISA but my point is that their professional managers never made me much in an excellent market last year (my "amateur" man friend gave me a suggestion and I made £300 in two weeks!). When I visit my branch I also wait ages to get served. I can well imagine having to wait a long time to close an account, so may I suggest that if you want to close an account you ask for a personal cheque made out for the majority of your money in the account then leave them to take six months to send the odd remaining (say £10) back to you on your officially writing (keep a dated copy) to close the account. If it takes too long with no response you can then contact the FSA.

sharewatcher 09 Jun 2008, 8:01am

jmwag: Certainly I have heard of saynoto0870. Should it be necessary to have to know such websites to phone your bank?

sharewatcher 09 Jun 2008, 8:08am

Reference non branch based banking I think it is clearly a step back and one of the many symptoms of poor customer service at Abbey. Frankly they can't deal with our accounts as well centrally as many comments on this article testify.

kfgfhfhgk 09 Jun 2008, 8:25am

From my experience Abbey are cherry picking customers for their zero account. Leading questions when applying by phone are: will you be transfering a balance from another card: paying you balance off in full every month or not. Reply no and yes, and you can expect never to hear from them again. Not even a formal rejection!

choirgirlsop1 09 Jun 2008, 8:31am

I have not had much trouble myself with our personal Abbey account, but if you are unfortunate enoguh to have to deal with their Probate and Bereavement Department, you will discover a whole new meaning to incompetant beyond belief. This department is in Bradford in Yorkshire but as a policy cannot receive telephone calls from the public; all calls go to an office in Northern Ireland, who relay your message. Perhaps this insulation from anyone real is the reason why they are such a disaster - and if any bank department should be top-notch on service and response it is this one. We have had three formal complaints so far and over £500 in compensation in dealing with my late father's accounts, but nothing has improved and I will be switching myself as soon as we are finally finished - I would never want my kids to have to battle with Abbey after my demise.

moleylabbie 09 Jun 2008, 11:25am

I agree with choirgirlsop1 – Abbey are useless when it comes to dealing with anything out of the ordinary.

My family have banked with Abbey for years but when my Dad was involved in a serious accident which left him with brain damage Abbey were awful about my parents accounts! My Dad was very old fashioned with his money - everything in his name and he never told us anything. When he was incapacitated it left my elderly Mom with no money and no idea of what to do. We found out we had to apply to the Court of Protection for my Mom to be made a Receiver (now Deputy). As part of this the Court contacted all of the financial companies (after we provided the names) my Dad dealt with instructed them to provide information of all accounts / monies held in Dad’s name. Other banks such as Barclays and Halifax were brilliant; really helpful. Abbey were bloody awful.

They froze every account my Dad dealt with – including the joint account which was my Mom’s only source of income (Thanks to Mr Blaire and his rubbish pensions). It took months to sort this out and resulted in a Court Order having to be issued against Abbey to release the accounts (which they promptly refroze two days later). My poor Mom was even reduced to tears while at her local branch due to their inadequacy. When matters were finally sorted out the only thing Abbey did was send her a bunch of flowers – we never had a full apology for the distress they had caused.

Despite all these problems my Mom did remain a customer of Abbey (She didn’t want more hassle to move after everything with Dad) and I am sad to report we are still having problems with her account.

Moral of the story make sure you have plans set up for any eventuality – it can save loved ones even more distress at a hard time - and tell those who need to know what to do (eg your partner) in the event of something going terribly wrong.

fenemore 09 Jun 2008, 1:31pm

Kitxp123...

I use RBS. They have made public their policy of never outsourcing any of their operations off shore. Natwest are part of the same group and act similarly. If account holders voted with their feet (as I did from Barclays) the moment their bank's "efficiency" measures meant sacking British employees in favour of cheap labour in some far off place, we wouldn't be in this mess. Ask yourself how an Asian worker in Mumbai would feel if a phone call to their Indian bank resulted in them speaking to a British call centre operative in Manchester with little grasp of their language? Absolutely horrified - and quite rightly so!

jambax 09 Jun 2008, 1:58pm

I have banked with Lloyds for years, found it good the only draw back is poor interest rates.
This year tried to open ISA with Abbey fell for the 6.25% interest rate. Opened account on the 10 april all was fine at the branch. Understanding was can transfer money into account in 15 days time. Now in mid june and my account is yet to be opened. The number of telephone calls and visit to the branch have not helped. I went to Abbey because had better interst rate of 1% compared to my current bank but in all this hassle and time spent i am not sure i have gained at all.
With this experience i have had i will strongly advise friends and family to keep away from this bank.
Abbey all round best bank are you trying to crack a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rayoz 09 Jun 2008, 3:09pm

I tried to close an Abbey account and was told the closing cheque would take about 3 weeks, needing the money pretty much straight away, I made a counter withdrawal and got an Abbey cheque made out, for the account balance less £2 and the odd change, it is still in the Abbey, but that is the quickest way I have found to close an account [well almost close it].

hem853 09 Jun 2008, 7:06pm

I switched to Coventry Building Society from Natwest about six months ago and have been pretty amazed, not only do they pay me a good rate of interest (Currently about 5.35%) on every penny in my account (not capped like most other high interest current accounts) but the customer service is excellent. Calls are answered in the UK, you aren't left on hold for ages and the staff will go out of their way to help you. I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND Coventry Building Society to anyone looking for a current account that pays a good rate of interest.

lindleytvr 09 Jun 2008, 7:49pm

I think that it's fair to say that whatever you think about which bank is best often depends on you experience at branch level and on their phone lines. I've moved from Halifax, HSBC, Barclays, Lloyds TSB over the years because locally the service was poor, of their call centres were unhelpful. I'm now with Nationwide for some products and Natwest for others because in my town they've got the best service, and their UK call centres normally help. In another town it might be different.
My advice is don't just look at the rates, ask friends about loval bank branches' service before you make a decision.

Gaunty43 09 Jun 2008, 10:20pm

Actually Abbey are not as bad as everyone, including the Observer, say they are. I had all my bank charges, £1500 worth over 3 years refunded in one go. I regularly transfer money to my offshore account to cover costs for my house abroad and have to deal with the call centre to do this. They are always polite and the transfer always gets there by 10am the next morning. I recently set-up an ISA and it was in place within ten minutes. They always offer to upgrade my card and arranged an account for my daughter. We went into our local branch on a Saturday morning and it was done in less than 5 minutes. In addition I was recently the victim of a scam whilst on business in Cape Town. I paid for some drinks in a crowded bar on my debit card and they must have copied it as within about 40 minutes they had gone to 2 ATM's and withdrew R1000 from each machine (R1000 is the daily limit in South Africa. abbey's fraud department contacted me the following morning asking me whether these were my transactions. They refunded me the money in full when i returned to the UK a few days later, I had to fill out a form they sent me to confirm I had not withdrawn the cash. They are not perfect but they are not as bad as the Nationwide where I also have an account. This past weekend my card was slurped by their ATM. I contacted the call centre, where after going through several options I was put on hold for 15 minutes. I was told that they had taken my card as they could not trace my address as someone had returned some mail stating address unknown. They decided to freeze my account on this basis. Even though I confirmed all my security questions they told me I couldn't get a new card until I visited my local branch to confirm my address and identity. I have been with them for 5 years and have lived at my local address for ten years. When I asked them why they did not contact me I was told that it was not their policy and that they preferred to wait until the customer needed money when they would then find out that they could not get any they would then contact them as I had done. What an utter disgrace!!

deb0207 10 Jun 2008, 4:14am

1) the Abbey National, was it not, the first "high street" bank to offer 125% mortgages to people. is that not highly irresponsible since it encourages the desperate to put all their "eggs in one basket".
2) Why do they continue to use the The Abbey national Logo without acknowledging on their facades the Santander Corporation behind it?
3) So whats so great about them?

Briwen 10 Jun 2008, 8:04am

I have to agree with the comments regarding the Coventry, fantastic service and good products. As for the Nationwide, the mistakes they made when dealing with the accounts of my late Father-in-Law earlier this year made things very difficult and upsetting for Mother-in-Law. They 'play' at acting like a bank but are nothing of the sort. They have been dealing with an ISA transfer for me since 23 April, no result yet.

To their credit Iceave and Abbey did an identical transaction earlier in just over two weeks!

070619uk 10 Jun 2008, 6:49pm

Thanks for all your comments and experiences with Abbey. I will be staying away from them for a very long time.

assorted 10 Jun 2008, 7:52pm

I'm sorry to say I have found Abbey's customer service absolutely terrible since applying for a Direct ISA back in April.
As part of my application, I asked them to transfer across an existing ISA. They didnt bother to process this and I only found out because I rang them. I resubmitted the request and now, two months down the line from when the account was opened, they still havent even contacted my existing provider about the transfer.

rufusbluemoon 12 Jun 2008, 9:52am

Really interested to read all these comments, as I'm just thinking about moving my current account from NatWest, and would value any thoughts about where to migrate to! My daughter and myself have current accounts with Nationwide and NatWest, and s savings account with Nationwide. I have had some real customer service dissatisfaction with Nationwide in the past, but in the last couple of years they do really seem to have improved, and were brilliant recently when there was a fraudulent transaction on my account, dealing with it with minimum hassle, and the amount was back in my account within 10 days, just as they said. But NatWest - oh, where do I begin??!!! - my daughter has had a complete nightmare with them in the last few months. Being a scatty type, she hadn't checked to see that her Maestro card could not be used for purchases in North America (I do wish this was made clearer); when she used it to withdraw cash, it was blocked after one transaction. She rant NatWest (very difficult, 8 hours time difference, and VERY expensive from a mobile when you have to hang on for ages to speak to a customer adviser) and eventually got the block lifted. But only for 2 further cast withdrawals, when it went on again!!! She had to go through all the same performance again. Now she is back in the UK, and has just received a replacement card, as the previous one has expired, and on the 2nd attempt to use that in the UK, discovers that it has been blocked - they have cancelled the wrong card, and it will take them 3 weeks to replace her new one with an even newer one!!!! Meanwhile, she will already have left to finish her project in the US. My complaints on her behalf at both the branch and on the phone have fallen on completely deaf ears - their customer service has been appalling. So I would really like to move both our accounts from NatWest, but am keen not to have all our eggs in the Nationwide basket - can anyone recommend a bank with local branches in the SouthEast, which also has really good customer service when one phones with a request/query? Does such a bank exist???

collingwood21 13 Jun 2008, 11:17am

Best bank??? I tried to open one of those "sassy savings" accounts last year to take advantage of the best buy interest rates, and they couldn't even manage to open the account. Everyone I know who has banked with Abbey has had problems with them.

Carlclap 13 Jun 2008, 7:30pm

I came across this site because I'm actually looking to leave Abbey.
I have two accounts with them, a personal account and a joint account with my flatmate for house stuff like bills etc.. I also have a credit card with them, bonds and an ISA. So you'd think I'd be a valued customer. Last year Abbey managed to put my flatmate's name on my personal bank account which we discovered when he opened my bank statement. I rang Abbey to get the mistake amended (there are enough comments about their phone systems above so I won't go on about how tortuous this was) expecting them a) to take the issue seriously and b) offer a bit of an apology. Over a period of six weeks my calls became complaints, no one ever rang me back or ammended Abbey's mistake and eventually I had to drag my flatmate into branch so that he could sign a form to give his permission to have his name removed from my account.
At Christams I got landed with £140 of bank charges because a bank tansfer didn't occur on time - putting the ballance of the house account into the red over Cristmas day and Boxing day (bank holidays).
And again I've just incurred over £100 penalties because two bills came in together making me £9.71 overdrawn.
The failling of Abbey is not to recognise that we are the customers and we have a choice over where we bank.
I will now move my credit card, ISA, bank accounts and my Bonds. In addition I shall be joining the long queue of people reclaiming their unfair penalty charges plus 8% interest.
Abbey take note, this is no way to run a business. You may be succesful in attracting customers with higher interest on accounts and lower interest on credit cards as this article suggests, but how long will you keep them?

foolishhr 14 Jun 2008, 5:13pm

Tried to open both savings and switching a bank account with Abbey - diabolical service. Could not believe the hassle, number of letters I had to wait for, and the difficulty in setting up simple payments. Don't bother.

1bazzer 16 Jun 2008, 10:16pm

I have had a running battle with Abbey over interest charges incorrectly calculated, only relatively small amounts but it is the principle that matters with me! Abbey Customer Services alternately admit that they have a problem and then subsequently try to justify them... They say that they now calculate debit interest from the day a debit card is used and NOT the day that the payment appears on the account. In other words they are charging debit interest before the funds have been paid out! I have statements for the last six months with no debit balances but ADVANCE INTEREST charges on every one! Abbey then surpassed themselves last month when they also made an INSTANT OVERDRAFT charge, suggesting that I had exceeded my overdraft facilty, which I had not. Apparently their system becomes confused when there is more than one funds transfer between accounts (current <> eSaver) on the same day! Anyhow, the same amounts of interest are nothing to the number of telephone calls that I have made on the same subject. I am now threatening to take matters further, FSA and/or Trading Standards, but in reality I have decided to leave Abbey and go back to the Norwich & Peterborough Building Society. N&P were great when I lived in Norfolk (and still are according to friends who use them) and I would rather deal with them remotely in Blackpool, out of area/without a branch, than stay with Abbey a moment longer!

JoyceMBeck 01 Jul 2008, 8:50pm

It may be sacreligious to say this on the Fool site, but has it ever occurred to anyone that it is sometimes worth paying more, or earning less, to get good service? I have had a credit card with (sharp intake of breath) Barclaycard for 30 years and Barclays bank accounts for 5 years. They have always responded rapidly, accurately and with the utmost courtesy and consideration. I pay an annual fee for my Barclaycard Platinum, if I don't