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Seven Motorbike Insurance Tips

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By Neil Faulkner | 12 March 2008

Motorbike insurance is less complicated than car insurance. For that reason, there are fewer tips to give you, once we omit obvious statements like: 'Less powerful bikes, and bikes locked in garages at night, will have lower premiums'. Still, here are a few things I learned during my time in the insurance industry:

1. Compare the small print

Like all insurances, cheapest isn't always best. Compare terms and conditions for driving abroad, the policy excess, whether your no claims bonus is protected, and so on.

2. Important stuff about 'riding other bikes' cover

A 'riding other motorcycles' extension covers you for third-party damage only or sometimes even less cover than that, i.e. the lowest cover possible, which is called Road Traffic Act cover. You can only use the extension if the bike is insured by its owner. Furthermore, once you park the vehicle using this extension, it's not insured at all till the owner re-takes possession!

One more thing, bear in mind that you don't automatically have this cover if you have a comprehensive policy. So check your insurance certificate to see if it's included.

3. Modifications aren't all that bad

Unlike car insurance, most modifications don't increase the premium, or if they do it's just a little. Obviously, if it enhances performance a lot you can expect higher premiums. Even so, if your mod doesn't increase performance, you must still disclose it to the insurer. Non-disclosure of any modifications could result in your claim being rejected, and your policy even classed as void.

4. Free legal cover

Legal-expenses insurance can be useful, but try to pay nothing for it if you can. It costs the insurer nothing, or at most a few pounds, so it can be quite easy to negotiate on this.

5. Try decreasing your voluntary excess!

Increasing your voluntary excess can decrease your premium. That's old news. However, did you know that sometimes it can't? This can work in your favour, too. When you get quotes, try both increasing and decreasing the excess; you may find you get the same price for a lower excess.

6. Avoid paying by direct debit

Don't pay by direct debit, because it's very expensive. You could easily pay interest at 30% APR! If you can't pay for the whole policy up front, use a 0%-on-purchases credit card, and pay off the balance in full before the interest-free deal ends.

7. Loyalty isn't rewarded

As with any insurance, always check prices elsewhere at renewal, because it's likely that another insurer is now cheaper. Loyalty is not rewarded, sadly.

That's about it. I hope you've picked up something from that lot. I'll have more tips on motorbike insurance in the near future, including some tips to win claims when the other driver is disputing liability. Winning non-fault claims is not always an easy task for a motorcyclist!

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Comments

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At 14:29 on March 13 2008, Xvavier said:

Most people who ride bikes also drive cars and you can only drive/ride one vehicle at a time, why are combined policies so expensive and rare? And why is NCB not transferrable between cars/bikes? I pay a fortune in separate policies for modern bike, classic bike and car insurance but only have my bum on one at a time!

At 08:45 on March 14 2008, st1100paneuro said:

I have used Direct choice for my insurance and they do a lot of the donkey work for this! each year I get a renewal that says I am now with xxxxxxx company and my premium is now yyyy and it has gone consistently downwards!

At 10:41 on March 14 2008, livinabox said:

i own a yamaha xv1600 which is the first bike iv owned in 17 years and im 50 now. i did a lot of research in the bike comics and found "wicked quotes" to beat others by miles. £129 as apposed to 500 odd from carol nash bennets and such like.

At 10:53 on March 14 2008, usmillers said:

Hmmm! I have a 14 yr old Harley and last year Bennetts sent my renewal letter for £79 I went online to Bennetts and the quote was £50! so I put in for it sent "their" reminder for NCB proof and it was accepted!
This time I did it again online was about the same £60 but the letter to confirm said £95 work that lot out!

At 11:55 on March 14 2008, vtrbling said:

Good Tips thanks and I must sayt hat I have had similar experiences to the guys above with quotes on my VTR Honda. My son however who has recently passed his bike test had a renewal from Bennetts for his 125 £1,129 TPFF but as he is going to upgrade to my old FZ750 Yamaha with a restrictor kit fitted he got a quote online for the FZ. As we were bracing ourselves for the quote imagine our surprise when it came back at £725 TPFF !! Now you work that out. . .Same age 19 different bike MUCH Different capacity and £400 pounds cheaper??

Oh yes one more thing - when renewing your insurance make sure that you ask if you are insurred for pillion passengers as nowadays you are not automatically insurred. After a tip from my brother I found out that I had been riding round for a year with my daughter on the back and she was not covered that was through Hastings Insurance and there was no mention about this on the policy.

Happy Biking

At 12:08 on March 14 2008, punderwood68 said:

Having ridden for the last 10 years, and like most bikers started on a 600cc moved to a 1000cc, now have a Kwaker ZX12. Yes premiums can be high, however best tip I can give is to complete the Advanced bike test. Made a massive reduction in my premium. My ZX12 now cost £200 fully comp, business use, protected no claims, 12 months green card cover. In addition the advanced test brought the bikes insurance group down from 20 to 19, doesn't sound a lot but gave a reduction of £250 on the voluntary excess. CHeck out www.IAM.org for more info.
Ride safe, be happy

At 12:58 on March 14 2008, thruppence said:

Just phoned Bennetts because they do not mention riding other motorbikes on the quote site. That is, motorbikes not belonging to you - in my case they belong to my husband. They do not provide this type of insurance, therefore I will be sticking with Carole Nash Insurance.

At 14:41 on March 14 2008, Strebor19 said:

Recently I needed to add my new bike a Fireblade to my policy, and my Experiance is that doing a online quote will not get you the cheapest price going, and should be just the start. What worked for me was do a on line quote and wait. You will get a phone call from one of the brokers linked to the online service, get there best price which will be lower than that quoted on line, then call your existing company and tell them you have a cheaper price. In my case Carol Nash dropped the renewal from £450 to £400, matching the cheaper price. I didnt accept and said I would think about it. Then I called back the first quote (in fact they called me back), and hey presto they found they could do it for £350, with a smaller Excess. My mistake was to accept the quote, because when I called Carol Nash to cancel my existing policy with them, they said I should have given them a chance to better the £350 ..... ! So by phoning around I saved an easy £100, but if I had phoned around more I am sure I could have saved another £50 at least.

At 18:59 on March 14 2008, MrTreeve said:

Just getting a new bike having been out of riding for nearly 7 years due to Uni (and inherent debt!!).
Apparently having such a break means you have "no riding experience".
Same sentiments as the people above really, within seconds of looking for a quote online a broker rang me back asking if I would go forward with the quote... £1500 fully comp for an '08 Dl650 V strom Grand Touring (rrp £5899) no NCB, alarm, Alpha Dot, 26yrs old, full bike license for 8 yrs (initially 3yrs experience from CBT) 6 points on license, under writen by Equity Red Star... now this is pure EXTORTION!! Now being slightly "Foolish" (love the site by the way!), I did a bit of shopping around, online, phone calls etc and have come to this conclusion: - There was a period when cheap discounts were handed out due to the low overheads of shopping online, however, this appears to be a bit of a marketing ploy to encourage people into the eCommerce market to allow companies to lower their operating costs, then when people are comfortable with the online usage (some people are still web shy believe it or not) the companies start hiking the prices up and try hooking you in with "special online discounts" big woo!! (big PANTS more like!).
You will always get a better deal speaking to someone direct because there are only really a few underwriters that the brokers have to go to and the cost differential is in the commision that the broker is prepared to take (hence my speedy call back on the £1500 quote!).
Now back to the quote, between different companies I managed to get around to someone (not naming names because I don't believe in promoting people who act as middle men to make money from an almost monopolised market who have relatively little skills other than quoting back at me the drop down box options!), but got a value of £595 with a lowish excess.
Points to heed: -
1. The underwriter here was again EQUITY RED STAR!! Thus backing up my previous statements and views.
2. On discussing details, because in my case the broker approached the underwriter for a deal, adding security features made no difference as it was "already heavily discounted" ?? (really..?)
3. There is no point in paying £300 for a temperamental battery draining alarm if it only saves you £50/yr (6yr* pay back period!) in insurance (*also noting that the deal between alarm manufacturers and insurers means that year on year there is no "guarantee" that the alarm is as effective as the latest £300 model on the market. If someone wants your bike and it's alarmed they'll probably just turn up with a sound proof van and chuck it in the back, the safest thing is a hefty great hardened chain and padlock (you have to chain your bike to something fairly solid too!!).
I will not be held responsible for any future increases in sound proof van related bike thefts! ;-)
I actually found a "leading market" alarm on ebay (ebay is not the only place to get bargains but it pays to look around) for £50 (brand new ex stock clearance, do not buy second hand alarms!!) and only purchased it as it will probably help insurance costs over the next three years 0% finance repayment period (at £50 its a "foolish gamble worth taking)
4. Generic manufacturer security is not recognised by insurers which is ridiculous as for example, Suzuki secure ignition systems take 0.4 seconds between electrical wire removal (attempted "hot wiring") and immobilising the bike (nobody is that quick!), so it is essentially a built in immobiliser, but you have to buy another "approved" immobiliser to get any insurers discount. Figger that one out!
5. I have found that Alpha Dotting is fairly cost neutral (don't know about other security marking brands?), in that the insurance discount is the same as the cost of getting it done, so at least you have theft deterent included for what you would have to pay in insurance anyway. Secure marking was introduced to prevent the organised theft and breaking up of bies for the resale of their component parts as spares.
6. The magority of points on your license should make NO difference to your premium if they are basic speeding fines as "they are so easily picked up these days". Obviously the same can't be said for someone who's got points for DUI or dangerous driving / death by dangerous driving etc.
7. Mileage is another mis understood area, as drop down menu discounts apply for mileage under 5000 miles but in my recent experience if you select the over 5000 miles drop down the generic response from brokers is an unlimited mileage policy from their underwriter, however, if the site asks you to write what is your expected maximum you MUST put your maximum as they use this to get around any insurance payouts if you go over your stated mileage (slippery scum bags!). If you state 5000 or 12,000 (as I did, knowing I won't exceed that amount of miles) the price normally doen't change as with the drop down menu style quotes, but the insurer has to know what your expected mileage IS and if you go over it you must tell them (and usually incur admin fee's too!). This is all dependent on the brokers relationship (i.e. limitations and restrictions) with their underwriter.
Hope some of this is helpfull, and I havn't babbled on too much, I just hate people who take advantage, I still don't think I got the best deal even now!!
Ride Safe

At 19:42 on March 14 2008, Chobmonkey said:

I'll also add to the above, I had a policy with Equity Red Star through Devitt Insurance. I had my bike stolen, a completely legit claim, and they didn't pay out, they weren't interested in it, and subsequently washed their hands of me and my claim. Absolutely awful experience.

At 10:25 on March 15 2008, Garethjs22 said:

HI, i had a honda cbr 125 for 3 years from the age of 17, my insurance was around £500-£600 tpff, i decided to take my test and passed at the age of 20, decideing to get a honda cbr600 (restricted) i was dreading my quote, to my surprise it came back at a mere £300. soon after i saw a nice suzuki GSXR1100 which i had to have at this point i had turned 21, i was overjoyed when i managed to get insurance for £180 tpff with my for years no claims protected. The strange thing on my policy is that it allows me to ride any motorbike over 350cc. do they not trust me on a small bike.

At 03:36 on March 24 2008, teamgreenzx7r said:

I passed my motorcycle test 20 years ago, but had`nt owned anything on two wheels for many years, and therefore had no `no claims`. I purchased a Kawasaki ZZR400 at the age of 47, and was surprised to find that fully comprehensive cover was just shy of £150, and was LESS than the cost of Third Party cover ! I upgraded to a ZX7R within 12 months, and the fully comp cost was £215. Maybe age does have its advantages sometimes, but I still make a point of looking for a better deal when it comes to insurance of any sort.

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