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Bank Charges Claim Vs. The FSA

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Is It Right To Reclaim Bank Charges?

Published in Current Accounts on 9 January 2008

Is the financial regulator controlled by the banks? We question the FSA's motives for its bizarre and awful handling of penalty bank charges.

Regarding bank charges, I have already summarised the latest situation in What's Happening With Bank Charges? The key point is that the Financial Services Authority (FSA) has granted a waiver to the banks that allows them to stop dealing with claims until the Office of Fair Trading's ‘super-claim' is settled.

Furthermore, the FSA has stopped the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) from handling claims, and it successfully encouraged the courts to stop handling most claims too, for the time being. (The courts didn't need much cajoling anyway. It seems they weren't happy with thousands of people exercising their rights to swift, affordable justice.)

But a few months ago, Lloyds TSB changed its charges in a way that will mean some customers will pay more. The FSA told Lloyds it shouldn't have done this, because it was in breach of the conditions of the waiver. So what did the FSA do about it? Nothing. It didn't tell Lloyds to backtrack. It didn't fine Lloyds. And it didn't rescind Lloyds' waiver. Absolutely nothing.

I have no faith in the FSA. Its motivation (in many areas, not just on bank charges) is often hard to ascertain. It could simply be laziness or incompetence that is the cause of its dreadful decisions. It'll never tell us anyway: the FSA is in contact with the banks all the time, but, sadly, us consumers don't have the same opportunity to invite them out for a few friendly drinkies.

Of course, that's another possible reason for some of the FSA's awful decisions. Whoever has its ear has the power. It reminds me of an episode of Yes, Minister, where Sir Humphrey says:

"All government departments are lobbies for the pressure groups they deal with. The Department of Education lobbies the government on behalf of teachers, the Department of Health lobbies for the doctors and hospital unions, the Department of Energy lobbies for oil companies and so on. Each department of State is actually controlled by the people it is supposed to be controlling."

In other words, the Department of Education set up the comprehensive education system to please teachers, not parents and children, because the National Union of Teachers talks to it all the time. The FSA is a government department (or sub-department) too. I think a case could easily be built to show that it often lobbies for the banks, rather than regulating them.

What can we do about it? I don't know. Almost certainly nothing. But the Lloyds development is a further strong sign that bank charge claimants can't rely on the FSA (or the FOS, as it's overseen by the FSA).

It's not like me to rant about government bodies or anything else, but in this instance I think I have reasonable grounds; it gives you my reasons for re-stating my advice with added conviction. That advice was: you should consider registering your small claim in a county court, even if it will just get ‘stayed' (put on hold). I gave my reasons in What's Happening With Bank Charges?

In other bank charges news...

The Office of Fair Trading's penalty charges claim begins next week on Monday 14 January 2008. When it will end is harder to foresee. Perhaps we'll be lucky and a final decision will be made this year. Or, more likely in my opinion, the banks will find ways to drag the case out for longer, perhaps for several years.

Also from 14 January, claimants in Scotland will be able to claim four times as much in the small claims track, as the normal limit rises from just £750 to £3,000. In England and Wales the limit is usually £5,000 for small claims.

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rpembo 10 Jun 2008, 3:34am

I too have been questioning the FSA's motivation this week, in this case with regard to companies offering land investment opportunities. Some 3-4 years ago my wife and I looked for a good long-term vehicle for growing a nest-egg (an insurance payout) and settled on a portfolio of greenfield land plots that were being groomed for planning permission for building of houses, in light of the government targets for housing. We knew very well that these opportunities were speculative, but had studied the conditions and felt that this was a worthwhile vehicle and, as with all speculative investments, at least offered a significantly higher gain, if they did achieve their target than could be achieved by most other investments, including property investment. By buying a portfolio, we felt we had allowed for the probability of failure - if only one achieved its objective, we would still have done well.
Unfortunately our circumstances changed massively due to health problems, and we are no longer able to maintain this long term view. Whilst we can and will hang on in if there is a strong indication that there could be a satisfactory outcome within the next 1-2 years, when this is not the case we will have to implement an exit strategy that may well entail cutting our losses.
However, we are now alarmed to find that, in all except for one case, each of the companies that was previously managing and progressing the sites toward planning approval has been forced into liquidation by none other than the FSA.
It seems that the FSA, triggered I understand by Mr Mulholland MP, who would seem to be an individual with a personal chip on shoulder to pursue, who appears to have then abused his position of trust to pursue it, has an objection to what they term "Collective Investment Schemes" (CIS), which appear to be defined as any organisation that provide planning and management services to accompany the sale of land. I have to say that, for the life of me, I can't understand what their objection to this is, and whatever it may be, their action fails to take account of the fact that many innocent investors, such as ourselves, are now suffering collateral damage as a result of their action.
Simply put, our portfolio appears to be in tatters. The prices at which the plots were sold were, naturally, somewhat higher than the simple market value of agricultural land, hence the loss of the vehicle for seeking planning and for managing the site will have reduced the value of our plots to significantly less than we paid for them - a result that we always knew was possible if the target was not achieved, but that we had not expected to be forced on us by the very watchdog that purports to be looking after our interests.
Of course we acknowledge that there were some scams amongst those companies involved in this sphere of activity, but we had vetted each of those that we selected quite thoroughly and had, for instance, ensured that each one owned at least one of the plots of land themselves so that they would not be lacking the incentive to pursue the objective fully, and we also avoided any schemes that required ongoing fees to be paid during the planning process.
I would like to know exactly how the FSA believes it has helped consumers of financial services by pursuing this line in this fashion, and where it believes its mandate has arisen. As you can imagine, we feel very bitterly about the FSA in this respect, and our only hope at present is to take legal advice as to what, if any, redress we have available to us.

mulberrie 18 Jul 2008, 1:04pm

I have given up all hope of ever getting my bank charges back. ive been waiting since last march already. if i won the lottery i'd cash the cheque and keep the money under the bed so the banks would'nt get there hands on it

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