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Good News For A Million Workers

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Cliff D'Arcy

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Published in Your Money on 3 October 2008

Despite the doom and gloom in financial markets, more than 1m employees can look forward to a guaranteed pay rise on 1 October.

They say that bad news sells newspapers. Given the state of the economy and financial markets, then the tabloids and broadsheets must be selling like hot cakes at the moment!

Hence, for a change, here’s some good news: over one million workers will be better off this month, thanks to an increase in the miniumum wage. The increase came into effect on October 1st. Low-paid workers stand to gain as follows:

Age

New hourly

wage (£)

Old hourly

wage (£)

Change

(%)

22+

5.73

5.52

+3.8

18-21

4.77

4.60

+3.7

16-17

3.53

3.40

+3.8

The Trades Union Congress claims that two-thirds of minimum-wage employees are female, so around 670,000 women and 330,000 men will receive this pay rise. Since the minimum wage came into effect in April 1999, it has increased by almost three-fifths (59%). This has helped to narrow the pay gap between male and female employees by around 5% in the past decade.

Every little helps

Although these increases will be welcomed by low-paid workers, they won’t have anyone jumping for joy. For example, an employee working a forty-hour week at the highest minimum wage will get an extra £8.40 a week before deductions. Then again, over the course of 52 weeks, this comes to £436.80 before taxes, which is better than a slap in the face with a kipper!

On the other hand, it’s sometimes said that “one man’s pay rise is another man’s price rise”. In other words, some companies may use the higher minimum wage as an excuse to pass on price hikes to their customers. Other firms may decide to cut back, prune their wage bill and lay off some of their workforce.

Nevertheless, it’s a fact that low-paid workers spend a high proportion of their income on the bare essentials of living, such as food, energy and transport. The price of these goods and services has soared over the last year, putting huge pressure on households with modest incomes. Hence, it would be churlish to complain about improvements aimed at those toward the lower end of the pay scale.

Top tips for restaurants

Finally, there’s more good news for those working in the restaurant trade. Next year, the government will enact legislation to prevent restaurants using tips to bump up the pay of waiting and kitchen staff. At present, these employers can pay workers a sub-standard rate which is then topped up to the minimum wage using tips or service charges.

Personally, I want my gratuities to be paid directly to staff, rather than used to boost their employer’s takings. Hence, I always ask whether tips go into a ‘tronc’ (a fund managed and distributed by the staff) or are skimmed off by the restaurant. If in doubt, I always leave a cash tip, rather than adding it to my credit-card payment. What are your tips on tipping? Let us know below...

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AndySeager48 05 Oct 2008, 6:54am

I have only given tips as cash to the serving staff, however be careful as tips are frowned on in Asia where I spend most of my time.

amalteser 05 Oct 2008, 8:10am

Low paid workers usually have to claim in work benefits.
The more they earn because of the N.M.W., the less they get from in work benefits!

pdcovers 05 Oct 2008, 8:32am

This increase in the Minimum Wage is good news for (as you suggest) about 1 million people in work. All praise to the Labour government who introduced the NMW in 1999 and let us not forget that the conservative party fought against it tooth and nail to the very end because it did not benefit the(ir) rich. Care to guess where the NMW would end up if there was a change of government - abolished or frozen(?).

DionofLondon 05 Oct 2008, 9:14am

I don't know how people can live on the minimum wage in London.

It may be better to create opportunities for people to work additional hours to get more pay, rather than just getting a small increase for 40 hours. For example, just working an additional day per week means an instant 20% wage increase.

This is good for productivity and the economy. Also, if these additional hours are in a different type of work, there is an opportunity for skill development to move into more skilled work.

However, education and training is always the key to being able to earn more. Just 1 to 4 years of trade or university training could result in a wage 2 to 10 times higher than the minimum wage.

AdAstra100 05 Oct 2008, 9:15am

Although an initial fan of the NMW, in my opinion, it has now become a major conributor to increasing the gap bewteen the rich and the poor. There is no market for manual labour intensive work because every employer offers only the NMW. Students forced into mainly vocational 'degrees', which tend to be labour intensive areas of work, and consequential debt by this Government have little or no bargaining power and are trapped by the NMW because there is always an alternative cheaper candidate, maybe degree qualified or not who cares!, coming through the system.
My experience through my daughter who is in the Equine Industry is that despite her 'degree' she will never earn above the £15000 salary needed to start paying back her student loan. This will go on until she is 65, circa 2050, when the loan expires and falls back to the Government which I hope by then will not be led by numpty Brown.

NMW is another classic example of New Labour (neo statist, ergo fascist)legislation suffering unexpected consequences because they do not understand people and market forces.

Regards

AdAstra

Relysis 05 Oct 2008, 10:06am

Does 'AdAstra' believe his daughter's wage will increase without the NMW? It would be 'Lower' than at present.

It is the extremes of greed in the system by some employers. As witness those 'Stealing' their restuarant staff [&others] tips.

Bailey108 05 Oct 2008, 11:56am

The minimum wage looks like a good idea, however looked at from the small business point of view, life's very competitive already, all I will have to do is cut the hours worked by employees in order to keep my business expenses control. in other words some workers will have a wage increase alongside extra workload, others will have to be let go. Bottom line - the minus line on the expense outgoings must not go up unless I can increase my prices (in todays market situation that's a joke.) So the Govt will have to pay more unemployed job seekers - who's winning here I wonder.

111BJD 05 Oct 2008, 12:12pm

With regard to tipping, why are we expected to tip restaurants, cabs and hotels? Surely the NMW was designed to ensure that everyone is in receipt of enough to live on. (Albeit inadequate in London compared with other parts of the country). If restaurants, cabs and hotels feel that their employees should receive some extra cash, then PUT IT ON THE MENU/PRICELIST like every other business does and pay a reasonable rate to the staff, including those backroom people who work just as hard but are not seen by the customer. Then we will all know what we are spending our hard earned cash on without fear of having to fork out extra.

minimumwager 05 Oct 2008, 12:36pm

I'm delighted by my pay rise quite frankly, and i'm sorry if those running buisnesess are unhappy, because they would be more unhappy trying to live on the min wage. If everyone has to pay that as a standard it means people would at least have a guarentee of what they can get. I don't think it is fair to have the money less for under 18's, as if they are doing the same job, why not have the same pay, this is ageist. Not to mention very de-motivating. But I appreciate small firms struggle to survive, and they do provide jobs, and income to areas, so i feel the Goverment should have more tax breaks for these firms in recognition of how vitak their survival is for workers. As they struggle to survive against big corperations. But to think the man who works in these firms should help to fund this battle by living on a wage which is unguarenteed and unregulated, is unfair. And would only encourage more British workers to live on benefits, to have their jobs filled by migrant workers. The Government should do more to support and encourage small firms.

JayPeg 05 Oct 2008, 12:39pm

So let's get this straight. At a time when the economy is slowly coming to a predictable slowdown and people will have less disposable income, meaning restaurants will be the first to suffer, we are rejoicing at the NMW going up and the owners being forced to pay the tips to their staff.

Expect to be paying more for restaurant food in future and expect more closures and less work at the NMW level. It seems that the Fool is suffering from a heavy dose of economic illiteracy lately. Or perhaps its always been there but as Buffet put it so succinctly "you only see who has been swimming without bathing trunks when the tide goes out"

The question I ask is are you expecting the restaurant owners to take home less profit or no profit at all, or not to increase prices to make up the lost revenue? Probably you are in which case you will be trumpeting the next piece of statist legislation which will seek to introduce price controls on restaurant food.

Why not go the whole hog and demand that NMW workers in restaurants are forced to become unionised so that we can start that whole sorry episode over again.

Lastly I leave you with a simple suggestion that in order to ensure your tips get to the intended person that you hand them over directly to the servers. That simple gesture makes your point without having to have the government involved or enforce laws that can only have the consequence of reducing work.

Najman 05 Oct 2008, 2:13pm

While the national minimum wage is in principal a good idea unfortunately it has a knock on effect which is not so good.
Until last year i worked for a company who had market stalls in various places around the country, and for the 2 yrs i was there when the wage went up hours went down as head office would tell us they could not afford to pay the increase. For many of the staff this meant hours below the level needed to claim tax credits or that it was not worth working once transport costs etc were taken into account. So in some cases nmw can contribute to job losses not job security as more employers take the decision to have part-timers instead of full time staff to cut thier wages bill and for small firms or those starting out it can mean they cant afford the staff they need to build a business.

lincup 05 Oct 2008, 3:14pm

i remember when NMw was first being discusses that Rocco forte of the hotel chain was wringin g his hands, claiming it would seriously damage his business. My husband and i had previously stayed in one of his hotels and paid 66 quid for the night - think brekkie was extra. Now assuming the maid was servicing 10 rooms per day - in reallity Id expect it to be more) that would be a nice profit.
I dont have a problem with profit - only when it is being made by exploitation
interestingly short changing catering staff used to go on in USA where NMW has been in existence far longer. Catering staff got paid a lower NMW because the assumption was that the public would tip - 15-20%. In reality in small restaurants and diners they often didnt tip at all.

Max878 05 Oct 2008, 4:25pm

To answer the question, I don't like the idea of tipping. How can anyone justify the practice of paying extra just to get good service or, indeed, any service? And in the context of taxis it's almost laughable.
On the subject of the minimum wage, I think it is a very good thing indeed, and one of the few remaining reasons why I shall continue to vote Labour. I can see why owners of small businesses might not like it, but it has to be suggested that if you can't afford to pay your staff the mimimum wage, perhaps you don't have a viable business? Sorry if that sounds harsh.

DougMansion 05 Oct 2008, 6:33pm

Don't forget these poor people earning the minimum wage will pay tax and national insurance at a marginal rate of 31%, thanks to our socialist Prime Minister of the workers' party.

DougMansion 05 Oct 2008, 6:36pm

When I was an hotelier (small, like Basil) we had a Wages Council to set our minimum wage, as did many other low-paying industries like the wool and cotton trades . I always thought it worked rather better than the national scheme to cover all industries.

Max878 05 Oct 2008, 6:40pm

Fair comment, DougMansion - I didn't intend to put out flags for the Labour Party - only for the minimum wage.

braindeadcat 05 Oct 2008, 6:40pm

Max878 you have a point about viable business but it can be difficult when you start up. We have been in business for just over 2 years and in that time neither director has managed to draw dividends or salary. Everything has been put back into the company. We have a sound business, no borrowing, but it is slow as we can't afford paid help and rely on volunteers. NMW means we can't pay anyone!

DougMansion 05 Oct 2008, 6:47pm

It is important not to add your tip to the bill! Because then it is subject to VAT! If you pay your tip in cash it goes to the waiting staff, or to the tronc for distribution, without the VAT taxman taking his bite. Whether they declare their tips earnings is another matter, but at least the Chancelor has only one bite at this rather small cherry!

jager66 05 Oct 2008, 6:53pm

This should be good news for the low paid. I'd like to see how many actually get paid it. i can imagine that it gets flouted like the working time regulations!

edwardmk 05 Oct 2008, 11:07pm

A minimum wage is a great idea in principle. Whether it works in practice is another debate that will produce heated arguments. If the government really cared about the minimum wage earners, it would enact legislation to index link minimum wages to inflation. It would also index link the tax bands to inflation and eliminate stamp duty for first time buyers to reflect the massive increase in house prices. Also, if people are forced to work double shifts to make ends meet, they should get tax breaks too. What about the state pension paid at the end of years of minimum wages?
Unfortunately life is not fair. Public sector spending is totally out of control, £100 billion at least is 'off the books' under Gordon. Taxation is unfortunately likely to go up, inflation figures are massaged down. The minimum wage needs to double, not go up by a whole £8.40/week less deductions. God help us all in 2009.

karatekate 06 Oct 2008, 12:37am

I run a small business, and in order to fund the minimum wage for unskilled staff I earn far less than the minimum wage myself - i am not a greedy owner, I earn roughly £100 a week....this is done to ensure that I comply with the government rule of paying my unskilled staff a higher hourly wage than say a trainee accountant/business administrator - my accountant says I am mad, but if I pay myself a 'living wage' then I cannot afford staff, without staff I work all the hours god sends (which put me in hospital last year) - who wins? If I increase my prices I am seen as greedy, if I cut back on staff I am seen as greedy - people who work FOR people do not have a full understanding of the costs involved in employing staff, overheads etc and I often wonder if it is all worth it - maybe I should go and work for a 'greedy employer' - I would be financially better off!

Technically, I should earn at least minimum wage, but to do that means losing a member of staff....so one is then out of work and the other is exhausted - I employ local people, some claim benefits as well - child tax credit, income support etc, all of which I cannot claim, so my staff actually earn far more than me even without considering 'minimum wage'.

Gone are the day when the cleaner earned less than the office junior, the warehouse 'housekeeper' earned less than the accounts clerk - now all are paid at 'minimum' - I would welcome a return to a pay system where you were paid for your skills and worth rather than your age and expectation.

Anfauglir 06 Oct 2008, 9:03am

I will tip if I get service "above and beyond" what I would expect. But why would I tip a taxi driver for doing exactly what I have paid him to do? What "extra" can you do in driving from A to B? Likewise a hairdresser - what "extra" are they doing that justifies handing over more money than that for the haircut?

Most times in an alleged "tipping situation" there is a minimum standard of service that I expect as a given. If extra is done, I tip. But if all I get is the basics that I would expect, then I don't tip.

dorcas62 06 Oct 2008, 9:15am

My student daughter a
was working as a pizza chef at a local pizza express and was disgusted to find out that the waitresses could make an extra £30 on tips a shift on top, but poor old Jen who was sweating and slaving while they were standing around got no share!!!!! A 'trunc' would have been fairer by far! Dorcas62 Swindon

Kitxp123 06 Oct 2008, 9:26am

I own a small business and employ 5 staff.
The new NMW means an extra cost to me and thus has forced me to cut 1 member of staff and increase the workload of the remaining 4.
Seeing as every cloud has a silver lining...this has allowed me to make a cost saving of over £250 per week.
On the gloomy side there is 1 more person unemployed and 1 more person the government will be giving benefits to.
Well done...NMW...Excellent idea! (for some).

keith1942 06 Oct 2008, 11:08am

I Feel that the minimum wage should be at least £1 more. those contributors who are compaining that as small employers they can't afford to pay any more I would ask the following question is their buisness viable? To keep going any buisness must make a profit after all expences including wages and salaries are paid. while its not always true the more you pay staff usually the better work they produce. those people who are working for the minimum are usually filling in until something more lucrative appears or are students earning a little extra cash, neither group will have the future of their employer at heart and would only be bothered if the buisness folded owing them money

Zweiblumen 06 Oct 2008, 12:09pm

Many capitalists on here are pointing out that some businesses may suffer or go bust due to the rise in minimum wage.

Let us not forget that anyone earning the minimum wage is almost certainly better off on the dole. The fact that they choose to work to earn their keep is to their great credit.

Businesses that depend for survival on taking advantage of some of the most vulnerable and honourable members of our society deserve to go bust. The country is better off without them.

franc0phile 06 Oct 2008, 12:29pm

Good news indeed, for the lucky million, but spare a thought for the many NHS workers who, next month, take a pay cut thanks to 'Agenda For Change' increasing the length of their working week whilst keeping the same salary.

RobGarm 06 Oct 2008, 2:29pm

Find it odd that despite all said by different people that someone could justify making someone redundant to save £20 a week and have the gall to actually state they were in fact saving £250. Maybe there's more too it than what was simply stated above.
Having been through all that small business entails for 10 years myself I would never I deny my hard working staff their due income to justfy balancing the books.I didn't make a profit (and that's maybe why) but as far as I am concerned there's more to employment; its about social responsibilities too.

Max878 06 Oct 2008, 4:15pm

RobGarm - I could not agree more. Well said. That is one of the things that lifts us from being an uncivilised society to being a civilised one.

Oztaxi 07 Oct 2008, 11:08am

all the taxi drivers I know are self employed, therefore the min. wage is not applicable

superted03 07 Oct 2008, 1:12pm

Although certain people have gained with the NMW a lot have become far worse off. Before the NMW jobs had a whole range of wages attached (mainly linked to market/supply forces). Now if you go into the Job centre virtually every job will pay NMW. This means that jobs that would have paid several pounds more than the NMW now just pay the NMW. It has given a target to employers to aim for and hence they will stick too. So some people have come up but alot have been rounded down!!
Also the ecomomics of the NMW would suggest that if a company has to pay more to produce its goods then it will increase the price it sells it for (or keep the same price and make less profit- not likely!!!). This then increases the amount you and I pay for goods so although so you may now be paid more but that does not buy as much as it did before due to the increase in inflation. Hence you becaome no better off since you earn more but it costs you more to live!!

Kimmerblee 08 Oct 2008, 1:09pm

Like all these Government initiatives they all look so laudible when they are first suggested. What the minimum wage has actually done is to drop wages big time. Those employers who were previously paying a fairly decent wage, suddenly realised that all they had to offer from that point onward was the basic minimum and that's exactly what a lot of them did. As soon as a job became vacant and needed to be advertised, the wage went down and the downward pressure has been across the board. In theory this was supposed to help the lowest paid individuals but it hasnt because nobody with family and responsibilities can afford to live on it.

To karatekate I would say your business is not viable and you need a serious rethink on this one.
Meantime the price of everything goes up so the poor blighters on national minimum find themselves falling further and further behind. I suppose it was too much to ask the Government to do some joined up thinking on this one and see where it was leading.

On the issue of tips, I find the whole thing slightly distasteful. Why should any worker be reliant on our charity to make ends meet? This is the 21st century and nobody should have to rely on tips to survive. I worked for a trade union that owned its own hotel and when I stayed there, they paid their staff a good wage and forbid tipping saying that it was degrading for the staff who have to put their hand out for our succour. Why cant we just pay a smidging more for services and ensure that staff keep their dignity and earn enough for their labour?

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