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How Your Bank Secretly Scores You

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Published in Your Money on 22 February 2008

We've all heard of credit reports and credit ratings. But a little known practice by some banks could mean they're also secretly ranking how good you are as a customer.

Are you a less than perfect 10, or a wonderful number one?

Confused as to what I'm talking about? Well, a little known grading system means that some of you are being ranked as customers by your bank.

NatWest customers are given a rating from one to 10, while HSBC customers are ranked on a scale from one to 100.

In The Secret Way Banks Keep Tabs On You, Donna Werbner looked at how credit reference agency Experian launched ‘Risk Triggers', enabling banks to find out the dirty on you within 24 hours of it being noted on your credit file.

But what many of you don't know is that some banks have been scoring your credit worthiness for years - by ranking you on a customer scale.

Big Brother is not just watching you, he is rating how good you are too.

What's Your Number?

Back when I was at university I worked part-time at a bank. One thing I remember is when people were declined for a loan or credit card, they found it very difficult to understand why.

Credit and credit reports are extremely complicated to understand. So you'd think that explaining to a customer how a bank also rates you internally would help give the customer a better understanding of how to improve his/her rating.

But although counter staff were more than helpful when I was making my enquiries, I was surprised how reluctant the bigger cheeses were to talk about risk banding. The way one bank responded you'd think I was about to appear on a television programme with my face blurred and a dubbed voice like Gerry Adams in the late-80s.

The person I spoke to at NatWest was particularly defensive.

So, I'm going to talk about that bank first.

At NatWest, every customer is given a risk band from one to ten, (one being the best, and ten the worst) which gives staff an indication of both the products and services they can offer you.

As the name suggests, the band reflects the level of risk you present it. The better the band, the lower the risk. The score is not fixed, and can go up and down periodically, depending on how you run your account.

A good customer is generally someone who has a long-standing relationship with the bank, pays in a regular salary and stays within their overdraft and credit card limit.

An overdraft doesn't neccessarily damage your risk band as long as you stay within your limit. Being a high earner doesn't necessarily make you a better customer. Indeed, someone who regularly exceeds their overdraft limit, or has a history of bounced cheques is more likely to be a risk band nine or ten, regardless of their income.

Five Star Customers

HSBC runs a similar system, where customers are given a ‘behavioural score' which ranges from one to 100, with 100 being the best possible customer.

In addition, rather like a hotel or a restaurant, each customer is also given a ‘star rating' ranging from one to five, which is used to identify possible products and services which may be beneficial to them.

The behavioural score is more closely associated with lending -- swaying decisions concerning overdrafts and loans, whereas the star system is more product-related, assessing the potential for customers to take out future products with the bank.

The two scores are independent of each other, although someone with a low behavioural score is also likely to have a low star scoring. A spokesperson for HSBC said that someone with one star probably performs little or no transactions with the bank, or could potentially have defaulted on their loan or mortgage repayments.

Interestingly, one source at an HSBC call centre told me that if you call up and have a behavioural score which falls below a certain level, you may not be able to get an answer to certain enquiries over the phone, and will be instructed to go to a branch. So in some cases, your score can even influence how you are treated as a customer.

Credit Crunching

These internal scores are independent of your external credit rating formed by companies such as Experian and Equifax, and are used to make decisions solely about the products held with that bank.

However, the two are not mutually exclusive. If you default on your loan or mortgage, your credit report is sure to reflect this. In addition, unlike your credit report, if you don't agree with your score you cannot appeal it, as it is automatically generated.

Not all banks score you in this way, although how you run your account does inevitably have bearing on the products you can apply for.

One source at Alliance and Leicester told me that although decisions on certain services such as overdraft increases do depend on how you run your account, the bank doesn't put a 'score' on its customers as such.

Moving to other banks, don't assume that all banks will treat you the same way. Different banks use different credit models. 

So theoretically, you could be a good customer with one bank, yet not so favourable with another.

If you want to find out your score - just ask! Most staff I talked to were very forthcoming with information. Alternatively, you are entitled to the information your bank holds about you on its computer records under the Data Protection Act, known as a ‘subject access request'.

This way, if you are declined, you can leave your branch with something more tangible than a generic leaflet telling you to send off £2 for your credit report. And even if you have no credit problems, if you're nosy like me, it's always interesting to know the stuff Big Brother has on you!

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freespeech100 23 Feb 2008, 12:02pm

The Data Protection Act is a farce, costing us another fortune in operation. The Post Office operate a "Safe House" scheme whereby the mail bags are deposited at a house to enable the postman to collect the letters for his/her round. When I received a letter from a bank it had been slit open just under the gummed fold over, enabling the contents to be read -copied etc. I reported tis breach of confidentiality by a recorded delivery,to the ICO only to have the reply that "NO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN." The occupants of the "Safe House" are a married couple of Tory councillors, who can now pass my and any other persons private information to which they have had access round the council chamber,with impunity.

Sebas40 25 Feb 2008, 12:56pm

A Most helpful topic in conjunction with" The Secret Way Banks Keep Tabs On You". After working abroad for 11 years and having not retained a property in the UK during this period, to the banks I am basically a 17 yr old with a visa card! (My previous RBS account) and the sooner I can "play the game" the better to receive the most competitive rates and products as all at the Fool would want me to. Ps: Really enjoyed your Podcast re University debt etc. My son shall be going in Sept and this was most enlightening. keep up the good work.

NSivathasan 25 Feb 2008, 2:00pm

A few years ago, H.S.B.C. telephone customer-services told me what my 'behaviour score' was - it was very good. After reading your article today, I rang H.S.B.C. to find out what my current score is. Unfortunately, this time, the advisor told me that he was not at liberty to release that information, and I therefore told him that I had previously been given my exact score, and that I had a right to find-out what my score was as per the D.P.A. The advisor then checked with his supervisor, and told me that my score is 'very high' and that he could not say anything else. I clarified the scoring system with the advisor: it is out of 100, with the highest score being 99.

afrps 25 Feb 2008, 4:24pm

LTSB use scores like A1 A2 B1 B2B3 ect Last time I was in the branch the adviser showed me my score on the computer screen. I went in about a loan and was offered one better than the advertised APR because of my score

Wolfe71 26 Feb 2008, 11:21am

It would be interesting to know if the US banks employ the same approach given the sub-prime lending crisis they've been enduring?

muddled1 03 May 2008, 4:12pm

When I requested info from banks regarding credit card refusal they just said they have a points system and are not at liberty to say as it effects their privacy from other banks! As I pointed out to them, if I don't know the problem I cannot rectify it! I found nothing on Experian that indicated any problem. I do have cards now, but the lack of information given to help you is extremely frustrating.

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