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Published in Property & Home on 24 July 2008

With the property market proving turbulent in recent times, is it the perfect time to bag a bargain at auction? We revisit the auction room to find out...

Back in February, I visited a property auction for the first time. The weird and wonderful delights in the auction room provided an experience I shall never forget, and you can read about them, as well as the mechanics of buying at auction in my article, How To Buy Property At Auction.

But, if media hype is to be believed (yes, maybe we have been guilty of it too), the property market is nothing but doom and gloom and the moment. 

True, statistics don’t lie. According to the latest Halifax House Price Index, property prices fell by 2% in June, slightly less than the 2.5% drop in May, and you might think that would be enough to put both buyers and sellers from putting their hats in the ring.

However, you wouldn't think that the case if you were at the property auction I went to earlier this week. In fact, the room was so packed that when I arrived just in time for lot one, there wasn’t an empty seat in the house.

Were they all prowling for a bargain? Or was it all just one big show?

Déjà vu

The first thing I noticed when I arrived was the amount of faces making a reappearance in the auction room. I spotted at least five people I recognised from the previous auction. These were the high rollers -- all investors, and all very, very serious.

I also spotted no obvious first time buyers, another difference between this and last time. I managed to speak to two first time buyers during the last auction -- both with funding in place but easily outbid by richer rivals.

I could see why they might have been put off. It’s easy to be intimidated by investors, many of whom only start bidding when the gavel is already halfway down. And, if you’re a first time buyer on a budget, you can quite easily be steamrolled by an investor with far deeper pockets than yourself.

Unrealistic reserves?

There were also a lot more properties sold by local authorities and private companies -- 87 this time compared to 53 last. This could be attributed to a larger amount of repossessions, or perhaps less private vendors are willing to sell.

However, one other thing that I noticed is that the reserve prices remained high across all properties, and several failed to sell due to the high reserve price. However, unlike last time when a number of properties sold by private vendors failed to shift for this very reason, this time those sold by private companies and even local authorities had quite high reserves.

In my view, although there were quite a few bargains to be had, it was impossible to tell whether they were, in fact bargains.

Many were abstractly described as ‘requiring modernisation’, which could simply mean the property needs a lick of paint, or a complete facelift. Depending on which side of the line the property falls under, it could end up costing you thousands more than the price paid at auction.

It ain’t over ‘til the fat lady sings

A common misconception about property auctions is that if a lot ends unsold, your chance to purchase it has also disappeared. This isn't always the case.

If a property is withdrawn because the bids weren't high enough, it doesn’t necessarily mean game over. Nine times out of ten there can be some form of discretion, especially if the final offer was close to the vendor’s reserve.

On the day, several representatives from the auction house will be swarming around, all more than happy to discuss your options. Once the unsold lot has passed, feel free to approach somebody to ask if the property is still available.

The auction house will act as an intermediary between you and the vendor to try to agree a price. Remember though, if a deal is agreed, you must complete the transaction within the normal time scales associated with sales at auction (usually within four weeks).

Is cash king?

There’s also the question of funding.

As I stated earlier, many people in the room will be cash buying investors. Cash is undoubtedly king when it comes to buying at auction, and if you want to go down the mortgage route, bear in mind that an agreement in principle can take longer than the 28 days you usually have to complete a sale at auction.

In addition, if the lender doesn’t value the property at the price you have agreed to pay for it and you are left with a shortfall you can't meet  –  to put it bluntly, you’re in trouble.

So, the most important thing is to have your finances in place before walking into the auction room. Yes, you could end up shelling out for requirements such as a survey only to be outbid by someone else, but at least you won’t lose your deposit through not being able to get funding from a lender.

And, if you’re serious about a property, go and visit it. Often it’s hard to decode the difference between phrases like ‘requires upgrading’ and ‘requires modernisation’ simply from the text of a catalogue, and the only way you’ll really know its condition is by visiting the property yourself.

Hunting down a property auction

There are several ways you can find a property auction in your area. Quite a few are based in big cities such as London or Manchester. However, Fools highlighted several websites at the bottom of my last article, all listing auction houses in your area.

Remember, a reputable company will always have a catalogue of properties on offer which you can view online or as a hard copy, so don’t be duped by any get-rich-quick schemes.

Above all, if you’re eager to bid but are an auction virgin, make sure you go along to one to get a feel of it before getting down to serious business.

During the auction this week, I watched a man pay £701k for a house with a guide price of £350k. My guess was that he wasn’t planning to pay quite that much, and I could see how easy it was to get carried away.

However, trends which emerge at auction are extremely interesting, and if you go to enough, you can start to spot where the bargains are to be had.

So, if you are keen to start bidding, the important thing is to remain calm, don't bid more than your budget, and you may end up bagging a bargain.

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pre3cpw 25 Jul 2008, 8:36am

Hhi, I'm a first time buyer thinking of buying at auction and have a quick question.
If your mortgage lender gives you a valuation and you manage to buy the house for less, does the difference count toward your deposit i.e. can you negotiate a better mortgage offer?

Fazzersix 25 Jul 2008, 8:46am

pre3cpw

A very short answer no, good luck beware at auction.

In my opinion not for first time buyers,to risky.

billyboy121 25 Jul 2008, 9:26am

hi pre3cpw, it would only make a difference if the price differential was so significant that the proportion of loan to value went from say 10% to 25%. There's usually a difference in lending rate between these two. This has nothing to do with the deposit, which wouldn't be funded by the mortgage borrowing in any case (unless you took a short term 'bridging' loan to fund the deposit, and agreed with the bank to repay that using mortgage borrowings).
Re auctions, i'd spend a lot of time going to auctions and not bidding before taking the plunge. I intend to do the same.

DynamoHill 25 Jul 2008, 9:43am

There probably are some bargains to be had at the moment but you have to be very very careful. At the moment most auctions are showing high levels of failed sales due to reserves not being met - and even if the bid looks like it reached just under the reserve this can be due to the auctioneer bidding up to this value {this is allowed believe it or not}. Looking at the few that do sell some of the reductions from the market peak are staggering - 40-50% not unheard of. The question you have to ask yourself is whether this is a bargain or whether this is the true value of the property and the original price was WAY inflated due to nature of the property bubble currently unwinding.

I would NEVER recommend a FTB bought at auction unless they had intimate knowledge of the property they were buying.

ggpessimist 25 Jul 2008, 9:48am

I do not wish to be offensive but this is the second article by Szu which leads me to believe thast whilst a competent journalist, she has no knowledge or experience of the real property market. The only really interesting bit of information about auctions at the moment is what percentage of lots are sold; this tells you whether reserves are too high or not & is a strong guide to buyer sentiment.
Please dont forget, value is what someone will pay for a property.
Of course the professionals are there: bargain hunting.
The idea that you might even consider buying a vacant residential property without inspecting it is terrifying: the most hardened pros will send someone to look: different if its commercial and/or tenanted.
Please improve the reporting standard by sending Szu on a crash property course or employing a market pro.

tipsy2 25 Jul 2008, 10:00am

Why does DynamoHill find it strange that auctioneers are "allowed" to bid up to the reserve value. The auctioneer is there to make a sale on behalf of a vendor and to whip up enthusiasm in the sale room. The vendor has instructed him not to sell at less than a reserve price. If there is only one other purchaser in the auction, the auctioneer has a duty to extract the highest bid from him up to the reserve price. Once the price reaches the reserve, the auctioneer will sell the property, even if it is only at the reserve price. What is so wrong in that?

wthornton 25 Jul 2008, 10:04am

"this can be due to the auctioneer bidding up to this value " - of course this is common pactice and also what makes a good auctioneer. Normally they will start the bidding and run it up a bit towards the reserve price and hope for a genuine bid somewhere near there. Of course alot of sales wont need this 'help', and this is where a good auctioneer will look for and entice real bidders from the start. They will not generallly 'trot' the bidding up against a real bidder as they risk loosing the sale - but you know that bit when tey have taken a real bid, and then announce the next increment ... before they actually have a bid ....... that is the clever bit as they are also checking to see of the previous bidder will go on - if it looks doubtful they'll drop back to the previous genuine bid. e.g. 102K, 102K, 103K there at the back madam, 104K, 104k, can i see, the bids with you madam at the back 103K .... blah etc.

The worst mistake an FTB or novice can make is to make the first bid at the price suggested by the auctioneer !! Secondly dont look too keen - look as if its your last bid ever ... it puts the auctioneer off and dupes other bidders - vary your bidding style - be straight back in if you want to look confident or take your time if you want to look like youre about to pull out.

Dont get caried away with a bidding war - when the autioneer says - "its your turn" - dont go more than you planned. Do your research get your price and stick to it, with a small amount over that as 'emergency bidding' if you really want the lot. just because someone else is prepared to pay more doesnt mean its worth that in the open market - its worth different amounts to different people due to their circumstances and desires !!

ascentium 25 Jul 2008, 10:12am

tipsy2,

Different cultures have different expectations on the practice of auctioneers "bidding off the wall." It's legal in the UK, but not everywhere.

The "downside" may sound theoretical and frankly isn't an issue for experienced buyers, but can be a nightmare for newbies - the logic is that there's a difference between someone who gets a property for £151,000 after seeing off three other people all willing to pay slightly less... and someone who gets a property for £151,000 when everyone else actually in the room thought it was worth only £120,000 but the auctioneer invented a bunch of bids to bridge the gap because the reserve was set at £150,000.

If auctioneers can bid off the wall, it increases the chances that the property will go for "too much" in situations where the reserve is unrealistically high. That's why I too would never recommend anyone go to an auction without a lot of experience. (I'd been a landlord for over 10 years when I went to my first, AND I tagged along an experienced "auction-buyer" friend for the first few.)

pre3cpw,

I'm not aware of any lenders who will (in today's market) lend on a purchase based on valuation rather than actual price paid. There WERE several until last year, and it was a technique used by some to build portfolios fast.

Likewise, there were some lenders who'd do "same day refinances" if you got a bridging loan for a couple of hours, because they would treat things as re-mortgage rather than a mortgage and apply different rules.

In today's market, you'll either need to come up with the cash, or take a bridging loan for a few months until a conventional lender will let you re-mortgage based on a valuation... by which time, of course, the valuation might be somewhat lower!

joewaldron 28 Jul 2008, 9:13am

How can somebody who only visited a property auction for the first time in February be offering advice to people on what to do? Surely someone who has years of experience in buying and selling at auction should be writing such a piece. If Fool does not have anyone qualified to do that, then don't offer advice at all.

brandonspeed 28 Jul 2008, 9:22am

There are no auction houses listed at the bottom of your last article mate.

TMFSUZY 28 Jul 2008, 10:49am

Greetings ggpessimist!

Thank you for your feedback, and rest assured I'm not offended. Years of watching dodgy programmes on channel 5 have helped to harden me :-)

The idea of sending me to a property auction was to get the perspective of an auction for a lay man. Yes, it's daunting, yes I didn't know what I was doing when I first walked in, but isn't that the case for most people when they go for the first time?

However, the advantage of being a nosy journailst is that you get to speak to the people who do know their stuff, and I spoke to several, some investors, some having a punt for the first time, and the results were very, very interesting so I really hope people got something from it.

Admittedly, I won't be sending my CV to homes under the hammer any time soon, but I hope some of it proved useful. If not, I'm sorry you didn't think so, better luck next time eh?

p.s. brandonspeed, mate. Several helpful Fools posted some links at the bottom of my article in the comments section. Have a look, as they seem to know their stuff :-)

Hope that helps/clarifies things!

Szu

Enzyme76 28 Jul 2008, 11:03am

25% increase
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7528248.stm

geoffaries 28 Jul 2008, 12:36pm

Hi Szu, I've read your article several times and I must say that I don't understand what "ggpessimist" is getting all worked up about, what you said made sense and you didn't pretend to be writing as an expert on property auctions.

TMFSUZY 28 Jul 2008, 1:13pm

geoffaries,

Aww thanks for the support. People are entitled to their opinions, but it's good to know you understood where the article was coming from.

On a totally unrelated note, I took a look at your profile. Best of luck to Pompey this season!

Haha, as you can see, flattery gets you everywhere... :-)

Szu

Tellmem0re 02 Aug 2008, 9:13am

Hi - I am sure I read somewhere that you can ask the Auctioneers if their policy is to bid.
Has anyone tried this? What response did you get?

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