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Published in Household Bills on 16 July 2008

This is the way to protect yourself from a 50% increase in your energy bills.

Last month, my Foolish colleague Neil Faulkner reported that gas and electricity prices could soar by 50% before the end of this year.

I think this is a pretty terrifying prediction, especially since the cost of life’s other bare essentials keeps going up too.

Unfortunately for all of us, it’s a forecast based on facts -- and there’s every chance we’ll see it realised within the next few months.

And while there is something you can do to protect yourself from the coming price hikes, if you want to avoid them you’ll have to act quickly.

Why Are Prices Rising?

Put simply, the price of energy for consumers must rise because the wholesale prices of gas, electricity and oil have already done so -- and energy suppliers pay for these commodities in advance.

The price we pay today to power our homes relates to costs that companies incurred around six months ago, when they bought the energy on the wholesale market.

Thanks in particular to the rocketing price of oil, the energy bills we’ll face by this September are likely to be 15-20% higher than they are now, according to Florian Ritzmann of Xelector, which powers our gas and electricity comparison tool.

This will be the first of two increases -- the second of which is likely to hit just after the New Year. Ritzmann believes it will slap at least another 20% onto consumers’ gas and electricity bills.

Altogether, our energy bills look set to increase 40-50% before next February -- and for people who are already struggling, this could be nothing short of catastrophic.

What Can I Do?

If you’re concerned about rising energy prices, or feel you might not cope with the sort of increases I mention above, I believe your best option is to cap the cost of your gas and electricity.

This means opting for a tariff that will lock you in to fixed prices (charged per unit of energy) for a finite period. It’s a similar set-up to a fixed-rate mortgage.

Capping the cost of your gas and electricity may go against the grain for many Fools. After all, switching to the cheapest energy deal you can find seems to make perfect sense -- and it’s been all the rage over the past few years.

But while a capped tariff is likely to cost you 10-15% more than the cheapest uncapped deal in the short-term, in the long-term it will protect you from those scary-sounding price hikes.

Why Cap Now?

The best reason to cap now is because the top capped deals are rapidly disappearing from the market.

A month ago, for example, there were still two tariffs available which offered customers the chance to fix costs until 2011! They're now gone.

As I write this article, there are just six fixed-price energy deals left.

The longest cap currently available comes from British Gas; its Price Protection 2009 tariff lasts until 31 December 2009.

While this is the most expensive capped tariff around, Florian Ritzmann and his team recommend it above all the others on offer -- because they believe that its longevity, and the savings this might bring, will outweigh the initial expense.

Most crucially, it’s likely that even these six capped deals will be gone within the next month or two.

An energy insider tells me these deals are already loss-making for the companies that provide them, as the prices are set too low -- so they’re likely to be phased out very soon.

They may be replaced by new capped deals, but these will be shorter and/or more expensive than those currently available.

How To Cap Your Costs

As always, it’s a good idea to use a price comparison service such as The Motley Fool’s gas and electricity tool to find the best deals for you.

In response to the surge in demand for capped tariffs, we’ve added a ‘Price Freeze’ button to the comparison table, which will filter out the deals offering fixed prices.

Florian Ritzmann’s rule of thumb is that, as long as a capped tariff won’t add more than an extra 15% on the price you’re paying now, it’s a good choice.

With price hikes possibly coming our way as soon as next month, it won’t be long until that extra cost is balanced out.

Is Capping Risky?

Should energy companies fail to increase prices by more than 15% this year, then opting for a capped tariff could end up costing you money.

But it could now be riskier to stick with the cheapest tariff you can get -- because in another few months, the best capped deals will be gone. Then you’ll have to commit yourself to paying higher prices, if you want the security that price fixing brings.

Ultimately, the decision to cap or not is down to the individual -- and you should make a fully informed choice, checking all kinds of tariffs before you select yours.

A Plea From Me

This might sound cheeky, but I’d like to ask all of you who feel this article is useful to pass on the information it contains -- particularly to those who need it most.

4.5 million households in the UK already live in fuel poverty (where 10% of their annual income is spent on fuel).

This figure could rise to 6 million this winter, as some of society’s most vulnerable people are hit by ever-increasing gas and electricity bills.

If you choose to fix your gas and electricity costs, why not help others to do so -- especially people who might not manage on their own?

Good luck keeping warm -- and financially afloat -- in the coming months... Sadly, I think we’ll all need it.

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summerdale 17 Jul 2008, 6:48am

If you do not want to fix but want a price that is always 1. Cheaper then British Gas 2.Cheaper then your local electricity provider and 3. Guaranteed that there prices will always remain competitive with the cheapest standard tariffs available from the other big suppliers take a look at the following website. www.4uminibills.biz. It is what I did and although I am nervous about these continuous price rises I feel confident I am receiving a good deal. Surely that is what we all want - isn't it?

allule 17 Jul 2008, 8:44am

Surely the energy companies are the best informed about future prospects, and must have tailored the capped tariffs to reflect these? I would not expect to gain much advantage, just more predictable costs.

Hitman101 17 Jul 2008, 8:47am

I understand the extortionate cost of energy is particularly bad in the UK when compared to some other European countries.

In particular Gas Prices, where unlike UK companies, European companies are buying and storing Bulk quantities of Gas, to allow them to both tide of any drop in supplies and to tide over short term/seasonal cost increases, and of course buying large quantities of Gas incorporate discounts!

To consider Electricity, where power generation is done in Coal, Gas, Oil and Nuclear plants, any generation in Oil or Gas Powered is going to be impacted by increased in cost by rises in prices.

I recall a long time ago seeing a report which suggested that the high cost of oil was substantially influence by the refinery capabilities of each country. If the refineries are only capable of converting Crude Oil into various products including Petrol and Diesel, then this limited throughput is going to have an impact on prices as much as anything else.

Since there are not many refineries in the UK and US and both countries have had one or more refineries destroyed over the last 5-10 years - an environmental disaster of immense proportions - this has reduced the processing capacities of both countries substantially. Neither country is expending much effort building new refineries to increase production and to replace the existing aging facilities.
Of course it also doesn't help that we have a horrendous environmental problem with aging oil tankers fleets and the semi regular oil spillage "accidents".

I'm not even going to consider the rise in demand from countries like China and India. That strictly speaking should allow for the increase of production, but why should prices go up in the West and not so much in the East. Are those Eastern Countries getting preferential treatment?

If, As for any other company's products, Oil Companies expect to make so much money from each of it's customers, but demand does not increase or even drops due to refinery limits then the only way to maintain or increase target profits is to find ways to push up the cost of oil.

Of course East and West have never been particularly happy neighbours so the shift in Economic growth and money from West to East and the Economic Problems from East to West, in no way suprises me. What percentage of Western Businesses, Properties and so on are now owned by those Oil rich Middle Eastern Countries.

I think the blame for the miss-management of our economy has to be laid squarely at the feet of those responsible. I hold the Labour and Conservative Governments of the last 30+ years of Stooge like incompetance. The Failure to invest continually in the necessary parts of the economy, to fail to exert legislative control over businesses in all sectors of the economy to restrict businesses to ethical and honourable business practices and to protect the public from unscrupulous and greedy businesses (instead relying on them to self-regulate), and to waste money wholesale on bribing international business such as car manufacturers to bring and keep production in the UK by giving substantial hand-outs which ultimately end up in the pockets of share-holders before bailing out, or the decentralisation of the NHS and other resources, spending stupendously large amounts of money buying computer systems from different companies for each of the several regions, then subsequently half or more of the projects are abandoned after going over budget by a factor of 2 or 3, and then a few years later, they start again from scratch!

I think that the government should be compelled to make detailed project plans and timelines public as part of it's election proposals and should automatically be booted out if it fails to meet these proposals within that timeline after say 3 years.

I just hope all the people who vote labour out next if Gordon Brown ever calls for an election (Is it me or is one not over due) remember that each time the government of the day becomes unpopular the opposing party automatically gets elected in and over a number of years finds some way to build the economy back up then subsequently screws things up Royally. For the last 50+years, we keep swinging between Labour and Convervative.

Is it not time to tell both these parties that enough is enough and vote someone else in for a change - I'm not saying any other party is going to do any better but they certainly cannot do much worse!

It is time to clean up house, and make Britain Great for all it's people, and not just the share-holders

CannySaver 17 Jul 2008, 9:03am

Hmmmm... can't say I agree with this one. British Gas's fixed rate deal to Dec 2009 is 41% above what I was last charged (back in April) by Atlantic Electric and Gas.

To save you looking it up, BG's deal offers you gas at 6.754p/kwh on the first 670 kwh's, 2.833p/kwh thereafter, fixed until Dec 2009.

For me, this would be a 41% price rise immediately, so I'd lose out between now and whenever the next big price rise is, and then I'd only save if prices went up EVEN FURTHER after the expected second rise in early 2008. And then I'd only have to December to make back what I'd lost so far...

Doesn't sound like a good deal to me!

Carolinepetheric 17 Jul 2008, 9:17am

price capping sounds like a good short-term solution.
But surely the sensible thing to do in the long term is go off-grid, isn't it?
Trouble is, I understand all those surplus double-glazing salesmen have now ended up in solar power, so we can't trust anything we're told, except that while it takes 30 years to recoup the cost of a solar panel, it has a life expectancy of only 20 years.
Any advances on that? I'd love to be able to find out what's what in green energy.

Saintspa 17 Jul 2008, 9:24am

I tried www.4uminibills.biz as mentioned by the first correspondent...

They offered me a 20% increase, not saving, on what I am currently spending. Nice work.

celeblandlord 17 Jul 2008, 9:45am

The biggest problem with capped rates is that when you come to the end of a fixed term the increase in your bills could be far more than the estimated rises. For example, it is widely expected that prices could rise by as much as 50% this autumn, but I am just coming to the end of a 3-year fixed rate and the best deal I have managed to find to replace it constitutes a whopping 80% rise in my electricity costs.

Whichever way I look at it, this winter's electricity bill is going to be very difficult to pay...

Mark
http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?sectioncode=16&storycode=60500&c=2

hpfan64 17 Jul 2008, 9:46am

Does anyone know anything about Utility Warehouse as an alternative to capping? A friend recommended them to me and reckons she saves a lot each year. I'd like to know what other fools think.

burchp 17 Jul 2008, 10:09am

Dear Hitman 101. Extraordinary rant!!!! I'm no fan of the Labour Party currently, but the longest period of uninterupted growth since records began cannot be a bad record. Employment and wealth at record levels. Interest rates at levels we could only dream of 20 years ago. The list goes on if you care to look up facts. For your information an election is not due until 2010, 5 years after the last one in 2005. Also bear in mind that those states that have centrally organised things like gas, oil and manufacturing production and do not have share holders (unless you count Polit Bureau members as share holders ) generally do not have real elections at all and as of my last check did not exist anymore. If you really want to live in a country run like this then might I suggest Cuba or Venezula. Both economies are in terminal decline and if you dare to criticise the govt you're likely to get a visit from the police!!! No doubt you'd be alright as you'd be minister of something or other. If you think the UK governments of the last 30 years have done a poor job then try looking up the recent history (last 60 Years) of a seriously mismanaged country like Argentina. At the end of the 2nd WW they were as wealthy as many weatern democracies yet by 1989 inflation had hit 3000% (yes 3 zeros) and by 2003 they had 50% of the population under the poverty line. I understand your frustration with the current administration but things are not that bad. When you are unable to access money in your bank account, when food and fuel is rationed, when you have to pay to see the doctor, when you cannot afford enough food to feed your kids properly, when you have to sell your car to help pay the mortgage then maybe a rant will be in order.

burchp 17 Jul 2008, 10:11am

Sorry guys - slightly off topic!!!!!

helenekerr 17 Jul 2008, 10:47am

Thank you burchp for writing the reply I was already composing in my head whilst reading Hitman 101's rant. As Voltaire said ' I detest what you say but defend to the death your right to say it', but he might have added, conduct your political debate in the proper forum. I would like to give elderly folk the benefit of advice on this one but feel that the article as it is will panic them into action. More relevant and informed responses would therefore be much appreciated so that I can make a balanced judgement. I am a political scientist not an economist and rely on this site for FINANCIAL advice.

KT2345 17 Jul 2008, 10:56am

burchp,your rant is way off,comparing the UK to the lowest common denominator government globally ie: south America etc is just a cop out,and your giving our our shoddy labour gov a prop up by doing so,so we dont need to start complaining until we cant criticise the government and get a visit from the police for doing so? until then we just keep shut Right? because our good old labour party are really taking care of us! hmmm hitman101 is right on the money, quit comparing down trodden countries to the UK ,to say its off topic and not relevant is an under statement,this country is in a mess

Terminater100 17 Jul 2008, 11:02am

I have also checked out www.4uminibills.biz. I live in the Northern Region and their figures offered me a 25.22% increase on my current spending. In fact my usage with Utility Warehouse would cost me £995.11p per year and is more that the top ten companies listed on a comparison website. To be fair however, it is lower than the top capped price of £1052, but of course Utility Warehouse is not capped.

baggins66 17 Jul 2008, 11:42am

Got to say I agree with some of hitman101's comments.I can't wait for the next piece of govt. advice on helping us to reduce our fuel bills eg stop wasting fuel,don't leave gas hob rings on when you're not using them, turn off your tv if you're not watching it. Sheesh, this may be a nanny state but stating the bleeding obvious is an insult to most people.I reckon of we could bottle all the hot air coming out of politician's mouths we would have more than enough to see us through the winter.Seriously though, its clear to me politicians don't want the responsibility of running the economy, just look at the way they handed the setting of interest rates to the BoE and the privatisation of the energy companies.Maybe managing the economy should be privatised aswell, at least there would be a chance of making a profit and we might even get value for money :-)

puffin52 17 Jul 2008, 11:59am

Energy prices have peaked ? why fix at a high rate just surf the net and get the best deal with no fix, notice the Woolwich have drop the mortgage rate and fees,looks like a glimmer of hope to a few !

janesk 17 Jul 2008, 5:17pm

I recommend we do the same as my parents during the war. Put an extra jumper on instead of the heating. Do all the obvious, turn lights off, close doors/windows, insulate etc. Keep one room warm when its bitterly cold, if possible sleep in the same room, if not then take a hot water bottle to bed with you. Use a second duvet under you in bed, its like sleeping in insulation !!!
I do all of these, not just because of the hike in prices but because I'm on a disability pension, I dont get any help (eg £200 for OAP, theres none of that for disabled folk) I'm on EDF, which aren't the cheapest but have given me excellent customer service, advise, and a fairly low monthly payment scheme (£56 for gas & electric) I would recommend them to anyone.
As for the government, well Maggie Thatcher caused all of the utilities to be sold off, so if any government is to blame its hers. I've always been Labour but with the loss of Tony Blair, I shall be voting Lib/Dems next time. Brown is a terrible PM, but a good chancellor. Alistair Darling is a Jonah to everything he has touched, wouldn't trust him to organise a p***-up in a free brewery !!!!
I say nationalise all the utilities, the trains and everything else Maggie got rid of.
And no state funeral for the only person who has destroyed the very fabric of this country, better than Hitler could have done.....

jim14alf 17 Jul 2008, 6:03pm

Hi moved to equigas and equipower now pay less per month and also in credit
the last supplier was supposed to be a pensioners deal

sylvialebeter 17 Jul 2008, 8:32pm

Hi, Above you state that the longest capped price is by British Gas, I have just signed up to N-Power and their capped rate is guaranteed until 2011. Sylvia.

DIYfixer 17 Jul 2008, 8:43pm

To Carolinepetheric and any one else who may be interested about green energy Part of my job as a mechanical services engineer is to sell green solutions to my customers. This however proves to be more difficult than it should, due to the misinformation that is spouted by not only your afore mentioned ex-double glazing salesmen, but the media, the mass ranks of tree hugging planet saving don’t build a wind farm in my back yard brigade and any one else who thinks that being green is a new concept that has only happened in the last year or so. Let’s get one thing straight global warming is a tax raising myth, this old country of ours has gone through a tropical rainforest to a sub artic climate and every thing in between. In London, long before trains plains & automobiles the Thames would freeze over and allow a market to take place, the first official one started in c.1608. These Frost Fairs could last for many weeks at a time, this stopped in 1814 when the “Frost Fair” lasted just 4 days. In many peoples opinion this and other evidence shows that there has been a slow natural change to our weather.

So back on to my original topic green energy the simplest and cheapest tip I can give you is switch things off, turn things down and use things less, sound flippant? Well let me explain

Switch things off
• How many electrical items do you leave on stand by?
• How many lights are left on in rooms that are not occupied?
• How many radiators are heating rooms you do not use, such as spare bedrooms?
• How many items are on charge that are finished charging or chargers plugged in that are not charging?
• How many times do you go out and leave the heating on?
• If you work Mon-Fri, out all of Sat and in all day Sun, is your central heating clock set for Mon-Fri, Sat or Sun?
Turn things down
• 100W bulbs or 60w bulbs, normal or low energy?
• 21 deg C on room thermostat or 20 deg C?
• Thermostatic radiator valves are they there and are they all set to max?
• Cooker extractor, kitchen fan & bathroom fan don’t just extract smells etc. they also extract heat reduce their speed.
Use things less
• Why heat up your bedrooms in the daytime when every one is out or down stairs?
• Why heat up your living areas at night if every one is in their bedrooms?
• Insulate all heating & hot water pipes
• Insulate walls, lofts see if there is a grant available through warmfront
• Look at weather compensation of your heating system (look up on web for full explanation)
These are just a few suggestions and in no way represent an exhaustive list.
Get the basics right before looking at very expensive “green” alternatives
• Ground source heat pumps, too expensive to be viable the technology is unreliable and the pay back periods overly optimistic.
• Water source heat pumps, unless you have a large deep lake next to your house this is a non starter
• Air Source heat pumps the most useful of the heat pumps, you will know these better from their adaptation to Air Conditioning units. You need a condenser (the box you see on the outside of air conditioned offices) on the out side of your home.
• Solar Panels (hot water) the most cost effective of the all the systems, but buyer beware quality varies dramatically; to be sure choose a German manufacturer.
• Solar Panels (electricity) costly outlay and typical of this country the pence per unit paid by the utility companies is pathetic, however I understand the government is pressing hard to change this. If you can afford them then they will save in the long run.
• Individual Wind Turbine a joke!
• Biomass is getting a lot of bad press due to food prices, well they have to blame something, the most common biomass fuel for central heating and hot water for homes is wood! Wood pellets to be exact, these wood pellets are burned so efficiently that the ash can, only needs to be emptied once a year. Unlike anthracite solid fuel boilers they can be timed to come on and off.
So there you have a bit of advice hopefully some help, and based on your figures of solar panels taking 30 years, (I think 10-15 years) if energy prices rise by 50% then payback drops to 15 years (5-7.5 years in my figures) for solar panels.

burchp 17 Jul 2008, 9:18pm

Interesting comment DIY Fixer on green energy. I agree with you on Global Warming. But tell me what sort of problems you have with ground source heat pumps as I am interested in it for my new house?? How is it more unreliable than an air source heat pump? Surely an air source pump becomes more expensive the lower the external temperature which is also when you need it the most - ground source makes use of the constant 15 C ground temp.

DIYfixer 18 Jul 2008, 12:13am

burchp A good air source heat pump is effective to around -10 to -15 deg C in particular air to water heat pumps. Ground source heat pumps (GSHP) are impractical for most domestic installations, because of groundwork and access issues. Slinky pipes require an area of land approximately twice as large as the total floor area of the house, in order for them to collect sufficient heat, without freezing the ground. If a large area of land is not available, bore holes would need to be drilled the cost of drilling the bore holes can prove to be prohibative. If you are on clay soil this presents its own problems.

GSHP’s can also be very high maintenance if the system you use is an open loop ("pump and dump") system where you have to deal with mineral scale build-up on the heat exchanger. They also run on electricity even at the supposed 4:1 ratio of heat produced to electricity consumed (Underfloor heating only) for every one Kw of electricity produced up to 3Kw of gas can be burned at the power station to produce that electricity so not quite the low carbon saviour they are proclaimed to be. I know of one major manufacturer of GSHP who’s managing director has had his GSHP removed from his home, which to me sums this up perfectly. Another point to remember is that your home will have to be super insulated to maximise the benefits of a heat pump.

For me a good solar system is the way forward, check out
www.viessmann.co.uk/index.php?content=product&model=vitosol-200 or

www.vaillant.co.uk/installers/renewable-energy-1/solar-1/solar_system_range/aurotherm-exclusive-1/ for vacuum tube solar panels

PV panels @ http://www.grantuk.com/product/27

Hope this helps

neepdocker 18 Jul 2008, 10:18am

Thought about capping yesterday but didn't get round to it. Today's Times front page states British Gas will increase prices by one third next month so if you can still get a capped account today I suggest you go for it.

neepdocker 18 Jul 2008, 10:24am

Well timed

Todays Times front page states British gas will increase their prices by ONE THIRD next month so suggest a capped account is a must - if you can still get one !!!! Try your existing supplier first.

burchp 18 Jul 2008, 11:41pm

Thanks DIYfixer. Very interesting and not very often stated facts. I didn't realise that heat pumps were only 1:4 efficient. I think I will think again!!

gillianswain 21 Jul 2008, 6:37am

I agree that the only way to stop all of this is to vote for none of the main parties and not voting at all would cause a constitutional crisis so that might be a suggestion. I think voting for a party that would pull us out of the EUC is probably the best idea - after all it is just a club to get Politicians highly paid salaries after they have been booted out from their own Parliament. If they won't let us vote (very "democratic" - I think not) or like the Irish when they vote "NO" suggest, as happened in Denmark, are made to take another vote until the electorate give the Politicians the answer they want, then the only thing left is not to vote at all. How would the Politicians react if we voted their party into office and then said, "oh no we have changed our minds, it wasn't the answer we wanted so we demand another vote". What part of "NO" don't they understand but then that is probably the reason why we are being denied a vote. To me all the problems of the utility companies charging whatever they like (guess what - the Consevative politician who helped with their privitisation was given a place on the British Gas Board of Directors - and they don't need more money with the huge profits they are making - millions of pounds per minute), the Banks charging whatever they like and never being available on the phone and Politicians not giving us a vote plus the introduction of so called "Citizenship Cards" is really the face of "big brother" - we are now living in similar conditions to a Communist state or Nazi dictatorship but with just a prettier spin put on it. Labour or Conservative - it's all the same. Vote elsewhere and "yes" try not to use overly expensive fuel - if they don't make money from it then maybe they might just give up. I will be putting on jumpers and live in one or two rooms if I can this winter - after all my fuel bill for the last winter 6 months was almost £900 and I was in South Africa for three weeks of that period! I am a widow and don't earn enough to pay these bills and I don't want to have to use my retirement savings to fund them. Mr. Brown, I would like to retire BEFORE I die but unlike you, I won't have the money to do it or enjoy it if you and your other political cronies have your way. Stop being greedy!

killickbecki 21 Jul 2008, 9:43am

I think that we should also be complaining about the fact that alot of electrical appliances now don't have an on/off button! For example, i got a new BT Vision box the other day and was very annoying to find that i had to leave it on standby! There is no on/off button and if you switch it off at the mains it has to re-install itself every time you turn it back on!
How do people expect us to save money when we can't turn something off and if we do, have to wait 30 minutes + for it to "reboot".

sixhundred 21 Jul 2008, 2:05pm

In times like this in additional to looking at alternative suppliers there are some simple things people can do to try and make and help themselves. Put on a jumper, buy draft excluders, switch off appliances, turn down the heating, switch off lights when you leave the room, etc. There are many other small things people can do, the cumulative effect being to reduce the household bills. It might not be by much but every penny counts.

I do remember reading about the number of mobile phone chargers left on all the time. The chargers use a small amount of electricity even when not connected to a mobile phone. Just think how many millions of chargers are in use today!

We also bought a plug-in power meter. It was alarming to see just how much electricity some appliances actually use.

HuttonFrank 21 Jul 2008, 9:06pm

Cheapest of all is Ebico. 0800 458 7689.
They are cheaper than Utility Warehouse - I changed from them.

happy14timebeing 28 Jul 2008, 11:43am

I use the Utility Warehouse discount club for electricity, phone, broadband and mobile. Taken together the services are a very good deal. I get free landline calls 24/7 and know that they will remain amongst the cheapest of the major energy suppliers.There Broadband is award winning and most reliable and they have a UK based call centre if there is a promlem.All the services are on one bill and are easy to read. Highly recommended.

jonny1974 01 Oct 2008, 1:06pm

An easy way to reduce your heating and energy cost is by installing an intelligent heating controller such as the ones on http:\\www.heatingsave.co.uk.

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