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The Lowdown On New TVs

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Guy Clapperton

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Published in Money Saving Tips on 25 July 2008

Don't know your Plasma from your LCD? Or Blu-Ray from HDD? Here's the lowdown on choosing a new TV for the 21st century.

High-definition, Plasma, LCD, Blu-Ray, HDD, HD DVD, 1080p. These are all terms you might come across when choosing a new TV and some of you will be in tears at the thought already. When some of your correspondents were kids, buying a new box was easy -- you waited until the old one no longer worked and then you bought a single box rather than a TV and loads of boxes to go underneath it.

That hasn't been the case for some time. The first thing to consider, though, when buying a TV, is whether you really need one. The standard analogue channels are being switched off region by region in a process lasting until 2012 it's true, but the addition of a simple digibox means your old TV will still work.

OK, so let's assume you're determined to buy a new telly. The next question is what size. Dealers, whether they're small independents or the largest branch of Currys, will tell you that if you're going for your first flat screen TV, your room will be able to take a bigger screen than you had before. Well, that's true -- but did the size of your old picture bother you? If not, this might be a good time to reclaim some of that room space. The price of a new TV goes up as the screen size increases. Plasma is more expensive than LCD and the difference between the pictures, unless you go for a huge screen, is tiny.

Do you go for high-definition or don't you? The answer is yes you do because it's compulsory; the bigger question is whether you want to pay for any high-def content. High definition is about four times as clear as standard definition TV and the highest-of-the-high is 1080p, which refers to the number of pixels on the screen. 1080i is a notch down but on screens up to around 40in you won't see the difference.

Freesat

Your new TV will have a Freeview tuner built in so you'll be able to watch it straight away but for high-def you'll need, at the cheaper end, a Freesat box. Freesat is a subscription-free satellite service; you'll pay for the box and for someone to come and install a satellite dish and that's the lot. 

Later this year there will be Freesat boxes with recorders on them so you can use it to record programmes while you're out; for a wider choice of channels, particularly if you're into sport or kids' channels, you might want to consider a Sky+ box or Sky HD (which includes the HD channels), which will cost for the box, for the installation and a monthly subscription. If you're potty about your cricket there's no way around this.

We're pretty much at the stage of thinking about what plugs into the TV. Here's a quick jargon buster so you'll know what the various dealers are talking about:

Blu-Ray: High definition comes to DVD with Blu-Ray disks. The quality is excellent and the players will happily play your old DVDs. They players are expensive for the moment and the DVDs themselves cost about 2.5 times the price of a standard disk. Hint: If you want a games console as well, consider a Playstation 3 as this plays Blu-Ray disks, so you don't need a separate player. If you're not worried about high-definition on DVD, buy a cheapie player for £30 or so in a supermarket.

HD DVD: A rival for Blu-Ray that bit the dust this year. Think VHS v. Betamax; this is the Betamax of the modern day. You can get second-hand players and disks and they'll play really, really well - but there won't be any new releases.

High-definition: Definitely the way the industry is going, cinema quality in your living room, available free on Freesat but every other source costs. NB: You'll need the right cable (called HDMI) to get an  HD signal to your telly -- SCART will downgrade the picture back to standard definition.

LCD/Plasma: Competing technologies, these are the screens themselves. LCD is far cheaper and the quality has all but caught up with plasma sets.

PVR: Personal video recorder -- it'll have HDD on the box, NOT to be confused with HD DVD. HDD stands for Hard Disk Drive and means it'll record programmes while you're out.

Sky, Sky+, Sky HD: The various flavours of the Sky satellite offerings. Sky gives you the satellite channels but no recording; Sky+ allows you to record programmes straight from the menu and Sky HD offers high definition. The cost increases as your requirements get more flashy.

You should now be able to work out roughly what you want. Opt for a known brand -- you'll pay a premium for, say, Sony or Panasonic but you know they'll be around to honour their warranty if it goes wrong. And if it's not urgent and you really want to save money, wait until the manufacturers and retailers start to panic about the credit crunch and slash prices in the run-up to what they think's going to be a terrible Christmas. Just watch those prices tumble...

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MigginsPies 27 Jul 2008, 8:17am

Another consideration, the bigger the TV the more energy it uses - also I believe plasma TVs use more energy that the equivalent LCD TV.

Bagsyb 27 Jul 2008, 8:20am

Whilst modern technology is speeding along the programme makers are delivering very few GOOD QUALITY programs to JUSTIFY the expense of a NEW reciever, PLUS in an age of rapidly rising POWER prices I would suggest to new PURCHASERS to look at the power consumption details on the PLATE at the BACk of the set. Those I have inspected use up to 5 times more electricity per hour than my current set which has a power consumption of only 75Watts Maunufactures of the Latest Technology TAKE NOTE I know where my pounds will remain IN the BANK until such time as this gross power consumption can be curbed

Blewyn 27 Jul 2008, 8:54am

Also, check if your new TV has a glossy or matte screen surface - glossy (ie glassy) reflects lights from within the room (an open window, say) and obstructs the picture. Matte screen surfaces are far better for daytime viewing.

AndiAllan 27 Jul 2008, 9:33am

Remember when comparing sets, get the shop to put on a good range of material. Computer animated stuff is very popular in TV shops because it flatters LCD and plasma sets. Insist they put something like Freeview on to see how the screen copes with poor quality video, plus some fast-moving sport and some sort of landscape shots.

Neither plasma nor LCD offers basic picture quality to rival CRT; unless you really must have a high-def screen stick with a decent CRT telly. People are giving or throwing away really good CRT screens - grab a cheapo.

seagull104 27 Jul 2008, 11:19am

I went through the selection process in April. My wife is coming up for 65 and watches a lot of TV! When I watch I like it to be good quality. Our Hitachi 28" was coming up for 13 years old so an upgrade used as a birthday present seemd a good idea for brownie points. I settled on a Tosh 40" ZF LCD. I am totally impressed with this set and the standard of the pictures from all sources. Even the fact that if I had waited three months I could have got it £200 cheaper doesn't affect my opinion. Just makes it an even better buy now.
It has taken a few weeks for the old lady to get with the technology but she now happily uses "pause TV" with the Sony HDD that was part of the package and most of the other numerous improvements. If you want to live in the past that's your prerogative. Personally I want to enjoy my short lifespan as much as I can without harming others. Should I really feel guilty because it uses a bit more power than my old telly? I've just had my roof heavily insulated for free so perhaps that will compensate?

ronat42 27 Jul 2008, 11:46am

I agree entirely with AndiAllan.Personally, I have little use or interest in these new systems although I have recently signed for Sky+, mainly because it allows me to to get rid of the dreaded set top box, a biggish lump of VCR and DVD player and an ugly TV aerial, shortly to be completed by the replacement of underused big ugly, heavy and space hungry 10 year old CRT thingy with the cheapest acceptable LCD screen I can buy.
Reasoning, I have found with computers that buying next year's technology today costs 10 times as much as buying today's technology tomorrow with no added advantage but the loss of a decent holiday.
The thing I find constantly annoying is that we have lost a lot of quality in both picture and program quality. Digital (not HD etc.) is about as good as a mediocre '80s VCR., i.e. about IMeg in old analogue money compared with 5.5Meg. for off air BBC etc.
I am sure that HD is better, but plain digital is awful. This is almost certainly due to a perceived need for the 200+ channels of almost pure junk that we now have for free. If that had been sacrificed by a factor of 5 we could probably had a very good base line digital service.
Our digital box is only used for 24 hour news and that is ruined by poor production, cheap tricks and that b****y awful 'music'
Another opportunity wasted!

pippa3 27 Jul 2008, 12:22pm

I bought a LCD television thirteen months ago and the picture was great, it was on a twelve month guarantee and half way through the thirteenth month it failed, I contacted
the local dealer for that particular model
and he told me that it had to be one of three things that had gone wrong,, ONE it may be the cable from the control board to the screen,or TWO it it may be the controlboard itself, or THREE it may be the
screen. he went on to say that if it was
the cable, that would cost £160, if it was the board then that would cost £280, and if it was the screen it would cost anything up to £1000, i pionted out that i bought it
for £350 and these repair costs were vey excessive, anyway i took the set to him and asked him to diagnose the fault and write to me about it which he has done , and the diagnosis is that the screen is kaput
and that to replaice it would far exeed the original cost of the unit making it compleatly uneconomical to repair.

I shall of course be taking the matter further, but, wate, there is another matter
for your attention, the LCD set uses 160 watts
whilst it is at the repiarers wating for a descision i am using a 24, yes twenty four
year old set that has never had a screwdriver
on it and it uses 90 watts so i would advise
that if your are in the market for a new t.v.
bear in mind that if you go down the LDV path
the your fuel bills will increase,you will be buying into some thing which is not reliable and government ought to consider an extra power station for all the higher demand

grandpappey 27 Jul 2008, 1:54pm

CRT = Cathode Ray Technology - Right?

I'm still trying to work out what LDV stands for!

I bet this craze for initialisation and acronyms puts a lot of people off.

jackiedoig 27 Jul 2008, 2:05pm

I made the stupid mistake of buying a 50 inch plasma for my sittingroom and a 42 inch plasma for my bedroom. My electricity bills have rocketed and there is a lot of heat that comes off both, so when you have days like the last few we have been having, my house is a furnace when the telly is on. I had a 26 inch LCD which I gave to my son and I would so much rather have that one back, for my bedroom at least, as partner wanted large tv for sittingroom. All tv's are good models, i.e) samsung, panasonic and sharp (lcd one), so don't be fooled into thinking that the more you pay, you may not get so much heat or bill consumption with it.

fisherflats 27 Jul 2008, 2:43pm

Just to add my pennyworth to this. CRT means Cathode Ray Tube, maybe LDV should be LVD and that is Low Voltage Directive - a safety standard. On the power consumption issues, most of the power consumed by any device actually ends up as heat and my old 28" CRT certainly ran far hotter than the new 47" LCD. So for any appliance, be it a charger or something on standby - heat is the give away.
Sorry to take the original writer to task here re: 1080p/i, 1080 refers to the number of horizontal lines that make up the picture, p is progressive scan, that is each line is presented immediately after the last. I is interlaced, the lines are presented 'every other one, then on the next scan the missing line are filled in. So in terms of total vertical resolution they are the same, however fast moving images are very slightly better for the more expensive P.
Hope this clears up a minor technical issue.
John...

cheads47 27 Jul 2008, 3:08pm

From my experience the screens on these TV's are notorious for going wrong. Are there any Fool suggestions for Insurance? I know there is the option of an extended warranty, but these can be expensive.

jaguarxj6 27 Jul 2008, 4:13pm

Valuable lesson !
My old TV developed a yellow screen. Phoned John Lewis. No problem, covered by 5 yr warranty (free) will send technician who diagnosed duff tube. JL refunded full original cost saying uneconomical to repair. Put this towards new Sony HD, LCD, 32 inch. This also covered by free 5 yr warranty. (Original TV was cheapest at JL)
Bear this in mind when comparing prices ! !
Oh. when I looked up date of purchase the duff TV was 2 weeks from the end of the 5 years. PHEW ! ! !

MigginsPies 27 Jul 2008, 4:14pm

I know John Lewis are usually not the cheapest but they do offer a 5 year guarantee on their TVs.

fisherflats 27 Jul 2008, 4:23pm

I think 'notorious' is an overstatement. The well known brands do seem reliable, the technology itself is more intrinsically reliable than CRT. OK extended warranties are maybe the fourth biggest scam on the planet, so try an addition to home insurance or something like that...

fisherflats 27 Jul 2008, 6:00pm

A point many seem to miss re: the power consumption is this, ALL lcd TVs are of the same basic structure, most of the energy goes into the ‘back light’ now whether it be Panasonic, Samsung, or Sony, the back light is the same technology and that is the technology of a low energy light bulb. Note also that many come supplied set as up in ‘showroom condition’ and that means ’full brightness’ simply to look better in the showroom. Remember that the back light is something like 80% of the total power consumption, now that default brightness is probably far more the you will ever need at home. However just winding down the brightness will not reduce your consumption, the back light is a totally different set up, read the manual. Sorry to harp on here about technology but a CRT and a back light are actually very similar in that ’agitated electrons’ hit a phosphor and turn into light, a plasma also works by a similar principle, so the power consumption should not be vastly different. Obviously a larger screen will consume more as it is putting out more light and over a larger area. In general an LCD is more efficient than a CRT and plasma slightly less, but ‘on paper’ efficiency is not everything, as with incandescent light bulbs the resulting heat is often useful and may even save turning the heating on…

fisherflats 27 Jul 2008, 6:13pm

On quite another subject re: Hi def, there is an intermediate solution and that is UPSAMPLING that means taking a standard DVD recording and by some clever algorithms, ‘filling in the gaps’, It does work surprisingly well and looks pretty Hi Def, also you can use your existing collection of DVDs and view them in a new light, the output is HDMI and as a test to how good it was I relied on the ability to read credits on a film. Standard DVD with SCART connection, only just about readable, some smaller print not, with up scaling everything readable with ease…

HuttonFrank 27 Jul 2008, 11:16pm

Sorry, Fisherflats - I think you will find CRTs are pretty reliable. Most CRTs out-last the TV that they were in.

fisherflats 28 Jul 2008, 12:27am

Right the CRT itself, but all the high voltage drive circuits are often not that reliable, nor the multi-voltage supplies to feed them, give it a few years and LCD will be as reliable as anything we have known, but by then we will have LED technology and so the process advances. Organic LED will be the next new technology, wide viewing angle, low power, better colour gamut, thinner than even LCD, lighter in weight, all low voltage, more intrinsically reliable, need I say more...

Hovis747 28 Jul 2008, 1:05pm

I have recently been looking at buying a new TV
Everyone will have their point of view, but here are my findings which you are welcome to share or dispute for what they are worth.
Look for:
1) LCD is the way to go being cheaper than plasma and getting better.
2) Pixel Resolution at least 1280x720 Best sets will be 1920x1080.
3)Motion response times either 12 or 8 m/s
4)Brightness 550 cd/M2 or Higher good.
5) Consider viewing angle ie can you only sit right in front to get good picture.
All Tv will have a Technical Data sheet which you can view to check above requirements.
The best I have found at the moment is a Panasonic Tx-37LZD85 37inch being about the best size.
OR Samsung LEA559P4F 37 inch. The findings are just my personal thoughts.

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