The Warning Sign Pointing To A 20% Drop

Published in Investing Strategy on 28 January 2010

Falling bank shares could be the signal to head for safer havens.

I'm finding many respected investors and analysts are saying similar things, namely…

  • The global economic recovery is going to be relatively weak.

  • The easy money has already been made.

  • There is a decent chance of a 10% to 20% stock market correction sometime in 2010.

  • The economy is being propped up by massive government intervention, something that simply must not and cannot last.

  • US property prices, the thing that started this whole recession, have not yet bottomed. Worse, there are more than a few toxic loans still lurking in banks' balance sheets, and these will come home to roost between now and 2013.

  • The place to be invested now is previously out-of-favour blue chips like Cable & Wireless (LSE: CW), Reed Elsevier (LSE: REL) and National Grid (LSE: NG).

Markets On The Skids

The FTSE 100 is already on the skids, and is actually down over 3.5% so far in 2010. The past week in particular has not been kind to investors, as banks like Barclays (LSE: BARC) and Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS) and commodity stocks like Tullow Oil (LSE: TLW) and Kazakhmys (LSE: KAZ) have all taken a decent haircut.

"This is certainly the biggest test the market has faced since the correction we saw in June 2009," said Jonathan Jackson of Killik & Co. on Bloomberg.

"We're dealing with the uncertainties surrounding not only the banking sector but also exit strategies from stimulus packages around the world. Markets have surged relentlessly higher over the last year and a pause for breath at some point was inevitable."

Short Memories

But the thing is, many people have forgotten share markets go down as well as up. They've been lured into a false sense of security by the market's massive rise since the March 2009 bottom.

So when markets fall for a few days, like they've been doing recently, investors start to panic. They question themselves. They wonder whether they should sell everything now, before it's too late. They consider switching from equities to bonds or gilts.

"The macro picture for the UK doesn't look particularly buoyant, stocks are down and sentiment is turning in favour of bonds," said Orlando Green of Calyon on Bloomberg.

Well hello?

Could someone explain to me when, over the last 18 months, the macro picture did look particularly buoyant for the UK?

Beats me.

The Harsh Reality Of 2010

Still, markets work in far different ways to economies. They go up during recessions, as we saw last year, and often go down or sideways during recoveries.

Welcome to the harsh and boring reality of 2010. You can forget your 1,000%+ returns on trash stocks like Pendragon (LSE: PDG) and Avis Europe (LSE: AVE). That's not to say there aren't some big winners out there, but you'll have to work harder than a dart-throwing monkey to get those sorts of returns in 2010.

In fact, as I mentioned earlier, quite a few well-respected investors are expecting the stock market to fall in 2010, maybe by as much as 20%, although probably not all in one hit as we had in October 2008 and March 2009.

Markets To Fall 20%

Prominent US investor Marc Faber said yesterday on Bloomberg he thinks the S&P 500 may retreat 20% because shares are expensive given prospects for economic and profit growth.

"The market has become overbought. There isn't a meaningful improvement in the economy taking place. The economy has stabilized, but isn't really expanding."

"Financials have already been quite weak. It's kind of a warning sign for the market. They may weaken further, especially the banks. Also commodities-related stocks could weaken somewhat as commodity prices ease."

Still, it's not all doom and gloom from the man who publishes the Gloom, Boom and Doom report.

"In general, high-quality and large market capitalisation stocks are reasonably priced considering you have zero interest-rates. As these markets go down, the high-quality, large-market-cap stocks will go down less than the smaller-cap stocks."

Your Two Options Today

Marc Faber believers seemingly have 2 options…

1) Sell up now and buy back in if and when the market corrects by 20%. Good luck with that strategy, because timing the market is generally a mug's game. You are either a long-term investor, committed to the stock market for years, not days and weeks. Or you're a short-term trader, paying your money and taking your chances.

2) Stick with the blue chips, hoping they don't get dragged down too much with the rest of the market, should it actually fall.

I'm with option number 2. Not necessarily because I think we're in for some sort of market correction, but because I think they are cheap and offer decent income and growth prospects.

But by now, you should know that anyway.

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WealthyInvestor 28 Jan 2010 , 10:08am

To take a quote from your article 'The past week in particular has not been kind to investors'. Isn't that a little like saying the last three feet have not been kind to marathon runners?

:)

Possible correction or not, there are plenty of bargains out there for investors who are prepared to invest the time and energy in finding them. Anyone who reads this article and feels that they should reconfigure their portfolio should probably take a short break from investing for a while as they are probably losing money by getting it wrong from the start. The peaks and troughs of investing are why the Buffet mantra about 'margin of safety' should always be factored into any investment.

Your 'two options' final section really applies to people who do not know what they are doing. For them I recommend option 1, only when they buy back in, hand the cash to a professional money manager and then just forget about it.

Heraclitusll 28 Jan 2010 , 1:17pm

If I owned shares, I would get out of probably everything now, and wait for the dip which I am entirely certain is coming. Then buy back in.

Heraclitusll 28 Jan 2010 , 1:18pm

If I owned shares, I would get out of probably everything now, and wait for the dip which I am entirely certain is coming. Then buy back in.

Philmo101 28 Jan 2010 , 1:53pm

I can certainly think of lots of places safer than banks to put my money!!!!!!!

FoxyWeasel 28 Jan 2010 , 2:25pm

Oh for a crystal ball!

wpannuitant 28 Jan 2010 , 2:39pm

I told you not to do anything in Jan and it looked like I was dead wrong. Early Jan the FTSE seemed to be breaking upwards. Now in the last week.....
If you were wrong and you still have your money it is easy to go in. It is when the boot is on the other leg that the shoe pinches. Wait for the daffs or maybe the roses.

UpHillAllTheWay 28 Jan 2010 , 2:42pm

I was thinking of transferring money to US dollars, but this article pours cold water on the US economy as well. Does anybody have thoughts about the future of the £ vs $ ?

TonyBritten 28 Jan 2010 , 3:30pm

Look, Listen & Learn. It is Obama who has shaken the markets with his grand slam on banks. To achieve this there's a lot of needle and thread work to be done but in the end it will be knitting needles and a woolly jumper which will result. Obama tends to shoot his mouth off too often and see how his wonderful words dealt with Haiti; nothing but chaos and a bloody mess and no one knew who was doing what. We've seen these people before.
The markets moved ahead a little too fast as people took up base line positions. If you did your research, made your calculated assessments and bought at the lower end then all you need to do is just what gardeners do; you prepare your ground, rake it over and put your seeds in, with a fortnight between rows. Then you do something else and let the Spring come and the warm sunshine and they will germinate and gradually grow until some time ahead they are ready for reaping.
Ahh . . yawn . . .zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thangbrand 28 Jan 2010 , 5:57pm

For what it's worth, there is an typical annual cycle to the stock market.
It goes down in January and perhaps into February, then rises throught March, April and the early part of May, drifts sideways or downwards through the summer, then picks up in the autumn through to the end of the year.
However, some years aren't typical (2006 and 2009, for instance).
I am not giving any opinion on whether this year is going to be typical.
One pointer, though: watch China. Chinese government policy could have a big impact on the rest of the World.

malchill 28 Jan 2010 , 6:53pm

For what its worth I am out of the stock market but when I was in,it is not just about growth its also about earnings and dividends.
If you want just growth then you are really in crystal ball territory if you want good earnings that is far easier to predict,although the bank sector is no longer included in this until they sort themselves out.

I doubt if we are in for the sort of drops predicted although I think growth will be flat for quite a while yet.

Fingered 28 Jan 2010 , 7:46pm

TonyBritten.
Sorry, disagree with you totally that it was Obama shooting his mouth off....
The markets were already falling and setting up to accelerate down BEFORE he even
uttered a word....
You might just as well blame Darling or Lagarde who much earlier went banker bashing
...but even that is equally an invalid conclusion to draw .

UpHillAllTheWay....
Yes, re $ / £ .......I have no idea what your timeframe is but in essence, don't be fooled that the US is (or is going to remain) in any worse state than Europe or UK.
It is still the most powerful economy on the planet. The dollar is still the world reserve currency, not the Euro ( Euro/$ being the most highest volume traded currency cross), not Sterling, not Yen, not Yuan, nor oil state "Gulfo's"

.......when the US catch a cold, we usually end up with a pneumonia of some flavour.


Relative strengths overall on 3 crosses are I believe the Dollar, the Euro and then Sterling. - as I said, timeframe is a factor.

Fingered 28 Jan 2010 , 7:52pm

Hey Bruce, my , my, you appear to have got into a tad of a fluster and have gone a wee bit wobbly on us Foolers..... A little while ago it you were raving on that "the bulls are in ascendacy" ..and.... " FTSE 6000 here we come, yeeeeeeha! Woohoo! "

Fingered 28 Jan 2010 , 8:00pm

You asked Bruce for someone to explain when the macro economy looked good over the last 18months for the UK ........Easy. ......It was beginning of March 2009 at the market bottom when rhe doom and gloom of "staring into the abyss" finished. Don't you yourself remember all the "Green Shoot" talk and the endless "we are in recovery and pulling out of recession chatter" that you have been re-gurgitating into your own articles?

Fingered 28 Jan 2010 , 8:58pm

UpHillAllTheWay....are you talking about having greenback "benjamins" in cash readies for the matress factor, or a UK bank dollar account, or a US bank dollar account or US treasury T-Bills or what?

Fingered 28 Jan 2010 , 9:40pm

Time for some fun and a wee bit of taunting.... :-) for our Perma-Bull half-glass full Brucey baby :

Do you still own Glaxo Stock in your portfolio as a quality company based on fundamentals bla bla bla , with good dividend yields etc etc etc?

Well on 29/12 Santa Claus gave you a present of high price of 1347, though you might have been too busy recovering from turkey
excesses at xmas lunch.

Today it's low was 1227.5 ........ That's what... a 9% decline?

So I guess your juicy high yielding dividends have made up for the captial loss in such a short timeframe. .....?

So what happened to the fundamentals here so drastically here Bruce in the space of a few weeks? Please tell us.

Did revenue or PTI or cost cutting, or confidence in the Exec board or cash flows fail to meet expectations of the analysts or what?

Did you sell? Are you holding? Are you backing up your truck and loading up with more stock buying more on the dip?

AdamHawkes 29 Jan 2010 , 1:55am

It seems to me that overall it is relatively straightforward to describe what we should do, but much harder to actually do it. That is to say that other than taking profits on the "dash for trash" stocks which have bounced, if we hold onto stocks which have a sound business plan for the next few years ahead, pay reasonable and well covered dividends, have minimal debt and are not on sky high PE's, they should help to see us through stock market volatility by the nature of their quality. This doesn't mean that they won't fall if there is panic or forced selling, but if you don't need the capital in the next few years (in which case you shouldn't be investing in the stock market anyway), just keep reinvesting the dividends: that is one of the successful and most easy to replicate investment themes of Mr. Buffet: the phenomenon of compound "interest".

The other point (also made frequently by Motley Fool pundits) is to diversify as any stock can go "pop" and lose you all your money, so spread it well. If anyone tells you that a particular company cannot go bust, rephrase it in your mind as "yes, but could I lose a lot of money?". A company doesn't have to cease to exist to damage your finances. It can get taken over for a song, do a debt for equity swap, dilute your holding out of sight or just simply not do very well. This is not an argument against equities or long term investing so much as suggesting upfront that you should get used to some failures, because they will happen, so plan accordingly.

Pound-cost average and "paying yourself first" (e.g. do your ISA every year?) can also work very well. Good year or bad year, just do it. Most people will not have a fortune to put into the market today, but could amass one if they saved a bit every month. In the 90's I was surprised to see a postman with a £100k portfolio. In the noughites I was surprised to find that a school teacher had a £2m portfolio. How did they do it? Long term investment. They were the Tortoise to the daytraders hare! Sure, when the market is getting artificially pushed down by forced selling, it is fun to take a short term punt on some stocks which you think will bounce, but recognise those for what they are and keep it small and well spread. They may give your portfolio a leg up, but the key here will be........timing, which is notoriosly difficult to get right consistently.

Also have the courage to act on your convictions, but don't get greedy. What is everyone going to do with all that gold and for how long? It doesn't pay a dividend. You can't eat it or live in it. It doesn't make anything. It has limited industrial usage and people think it looks pretty. It is a temporary store of value, a safe haven, and not much more. Sooner or later gold will be sold in favour of something more usefull.

By selectively investing in the FTSE 350 you should be able to gain international currency exposure, good value, high yielding stocks with strong balance sheets across several different business sectors which will IN THE LONG TERM, help you beat inflation and the International Fisher Effect will help with some of the currency fluctuations.

If you have been reading this site regularly enough, you will have had most of the advice you need in the form of a few tried and trusted mantras, in summary:

i) invest for the long term;
ii) buy quality and relax (up to a point);
iii) reinvest your dividends;
iv) diversify;
v) invest regularly;
vi) use your ISA allowance every year if you will ever pay significant tax;
vii) be prepared to be contrarian; don't think like the average private investor!
viii) be patient (which is a reiteration of point (i) but most people don't really get it! Think 20 years+).

At least that's my opinion.....

Bonne chance!

Fingered 02 Feb 2010 , 12:14am

AdamHawkes.........and in the long term .......you are dead. The notion that the stock market always produces long term gains depends is a false. It depnds upon when you enter the market and if there is a secular bull or bear market in force doesn't it? Bonne Chance et bon courage.

Fingered 02 Feb 2010 , 12:19am

AdamHawkes, I see you are referring to the famous 2 bogous strategies of pound cost averaging and diversification........ these strategies in a secular bear market can wipe you out. :-) The strategies simply don't work.

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