We're All Doomed!

Published in Investing Strategy on 3 November 2009

How much attention should we pay to prophecies of financial doom?

Whenever you write an article in looking at where shares go next, somebody will invariably post a comment saying the entire global economy is based on a myth, markets are about to collapse, society is doomed, and this time next week we'll all be shivering in caves and eating each other to stay warm.

Motley Fool user theRealGrinch was at it last week under my article Why I'm Hoping For Further Market Falls, claiming that "I really believe we are heading for 4,400 or worse before Easter 2010". He belongs to an honourable breed, his doomsday scenario was relatively modest as they go, and of course he might well be right.

So should we do something about it?

Blood and guts

The voices of impending doom are always with us, but the credit crunch has brought them out in force, like sharks sniffing blood at a feeding frenzy. And as I have always been fascinated by sharks (who isn't?), I have to admit that I don't relish staring into the jaws of impending financial horror.

My favourite journalist of the crunch has been Ambrose Evans-Pritchard at the Telegraph, who has tossed his hungry readers endless hunks of economic blood and chump, including meltdown in Latvia, a collapse in global trade (Beware the Baltic Dry Index!), Credit Crunch II, eurozone meltdown, Chinese meltdown, Japanese meltdown…

I've lapped it all up, even though none of these horrors have yet to come about, and if they did, we would all be shivering in caves wondering which of our friends had most meat on them.

Gloomy Toons

It takes a fair bit of nerve to keep your head while all about you are screaming "Fire! Fire! Fire!", but try and keep yours.

At the start of this year plenty of people were claiming that the FTSE 100 would fall below 3,000 and equities were fried for a generation. Anybody who tossed their portfolio out of the window to escape the flames will have regretted their decision after the smoke cleared in March, our economic foundations were charred but still standing, and the benchmark rallied to 5,000. 

That is one of the dangers of doom-mongers. If they're wrong, they're very, very wrong, and woe betide those who paid too much attention to their ravings.

We're all doomed!

Yet their claims exert a grim fascination. Like all soothsayers, they pretend to a secret knowledge that has evaded the rest of us Foolish mortals. It's Biblical, the End of Days. It's hardwired into our psyche. That is why every so often, some cult assembles on a hillside and waits for the world to end.

The fact that it doesn't end rarely deters them, and nor does calling them Cassandras, because as they will quickly point out, Cassandra was right (but doomed not to be believed).

And if they are correct, we will all be shivering in caves etc etc, and serve us right for not listening to them.

Armageddon outta here!

With the FTSE dipping to 4,999 as I type, this is a dangerous time to write these words. TheRealGrinch may be right and the FTSE could hit 4,400 long before Easter. Ambrose Evans-Pritchard may be spot on with one (or all) of his predictions, and countries will topple like dominoes.

The only problem is that if you believe them, the only logical response is to ditch your entire portfolio, short anything that moves, buy gold and dig a bunker in your backyard.

None of which I'm actually doing, what about you?

Duck, everybody!

Although doom-mongers attract people's attention, few people act on their warnings. Because if you think the world is about to end, you have to take some pretty serious evasive action, and most of us aren't willing to do that.

And it is when you take action that the doubts start creeping in. What if the FTSE 100 doesn't actually collapse? If I sell up, and it subsequently rises to 5,500, I will feel pretty silly, and will have lost a lot of money to boot. And what if I put all my money into gold, and the price collapses? Or my bunker collapses?

Doomy prophecies make intoxicating reading, but I'm not sure they're a great guide to what you should do with your portfolio. You should take a much more measured approach to The Coming Rout in Shares.

Revenge of the Grinch

The doom-mongers do perform a useful function. They alert us to the many dangers facing the global economy, stock markets and our own portfolios. They help prevent us from getting carried away by short-term rallies. And they add another piece to the jigsaw puzzle of company, market and economic sentiment that guide our investment decisions. We should thank them.

On a wider scale, they also alert policymakers to the imbalances in the global economy, and hopefully encourage them to do something about them. So you shouldn't ignore them, but you do need to keep them in perspective.

Stock markets have trampled over a mountain of gloomy prophecies to hit their current levels. I agree that It's Time To Be Defensive Again, but I wouldn't go to extremes.

Because if the world does fall about our ears and we all end up shivering in caves and inviting our friends over for dinner (then eating them), we will have a lot more to worry about than whether our favourite company will cut its dividend next year.

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BarrenFluffit 03 Nov 2009 , 11:48am

Predictions have a number of frustrating characteristics. It's impossible to gauge their accuracy until after the event, predicting when something will happen is as important as what will happen.

LetsGoa 03 Nov 2009 , 11:59am

Thats exactly what people should be doing buying gold.
When the time comes that investors see that gold, commodities and maybe the companies that produce these tangibles are the only safe place for their cash the price will have rocketed.

Shares are Last decade Investment.

theRealGrinch 03 Nov 2009 , 2:11pm

Dear Harvey,

Thank you for making me turn and smile.

Hearing something that may not be popular is not necessarily a portent to the "end of the world". I do believe shares represent good long term investments (10 year plus), but I honestly believe that the recovery in shares has trifling reality to the real world of rising unemployment, weak retail figures (any increase on 2008's nadir has little comfort), further bank bailouts, global debt, rising taxes, spending cuts et al.

Shares have been on a rip. They have recovered too far, too fast. And when I see regular posts of people asking for share tips, or how to buy shares I know we are headign down - for these people always get in on the top floor before the lift heads to the ground floor.

Writing shares will fall to 4,400 is hardly A Morrissey opening line, or concluding that shares have no future. I cannot say when it will reach there, but I do believe before Easter 2010.

What I am simply asserting, is there will be better days to buy than the date of my original post (market was hoovering around 5,200).

This week, we get crucial US figures released, but post christmas the retail figures will be material in the direction where we head next.

I believe those figures will be weak and the market will head further down. Not to 3,000 or 2,000...but merely a 15% correction from the recent highs.

Looking at the 1970s recession, the one Jim Slater acknowledges is the one most like today, the market recovered five or six times, before it final broke out. We are not there yet.

Im happy to hold cash and wait for the down days.

Smiley61 03 Nov 2009 , 6:19pm

Personally, I can't wait ....

I didn't have the cash 7 months ago, and now I do.

I can't see supermarkets closing, swine flu taking a year off, or cars parked on the side of the road without fuel. TESCO, GSK and BP wpould certainly be appealing to me in another stockmarket downturn.

Just shows that if you're not careful, you end up knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Smiley61

bimber 03 Nov 2009 , 8:17pm

"Doom Monger" is a term used by people who do not want to listen. Those who listened early enough and chose to understand the message, instead of hoping a state of unreality could persist indefinitely, have protected their wealth from the financial tornadoes of the last few years. If you can imagine a world where the things which are causing the problems in our economy have all failed and been wiped away, instead of been bailed out and allowed to continue to drag us down, then you will see that there is no real doom in their predictions.

My wake up call was in summer 2007, reading the housepricecrash.co.uk forums. It was almost exactly 2 years ago when I first bought gold. I didn't sell all my shares and build a shelter, I just put spare cash into gold instead of shares. I also got out of sterling by switching from UK to emerging market trackers, a move which took a long time to pay off because of the crash I'd read about and hoped wouldn't happen, and the lack of decoupling, which I hoped would happen. Before the crash last year it was obvious that the gold route was the best route so I did sell some (but not all) shares for gold, and I kept cash and tinned food in the house. When the banking system came within 6 hours of collapse I was far more prepared than most people, and I rode out the crash without losing sleep. I suspect some people achieved the same, by not knowing just how bad it was!

Gold back in November 2007 was under £400, but it soon went up, never to return, and the FTSE 100 was 6500 and looking dodgy. This February and March you could get yields which were worthwhile even if the dividend was halved, whereas gold had gone to £650+. My spare cash was now going into shares (oil companies, a silver miner, utilities fund, equity income fund). I didn't sell my gold, which is worth only about the same today, but I made 15% on tinned soup!

I wish I'd taken the approach Harvey warns against, but no one can predict the future so I decided to hedge my bets instead of going "all in". Anyone who would move 100% of their wealth into a single asset based on the thoughts of someone on the web is the nutter, not the "doom mongers".

Gold hit an all time high in dollars today, the Dow Jones needs to add more than 40% to reach its own high.

guykguard 04 Nov 2009 , 4:10pm

Like the raging bulls, the doomsters labour under the common illusion that they have a grip on "the facts" that the rest of us are too ignorant or too stupid to understand or interpret.
The "rest of us" may make some errors of judgment, which we freely own up to -- as WB did over BH's stake in ConocoPhilips. Unlike the doomsters and the raging bulls, however, we can resist that most seductive temptation: to draw rash conclusions based on what we want to believe rather than on what such facts as there are are actually telling us.
The long history of economic progress and prosperity is there for all for whom the school of life is always open. Pity it takes a lifetime for most of us to read it. Some of us, alas, never learn it.

quarrybank 04 Nov 2009 , 6:52pm
RobinnBanks 08 Nov 2009 , 11:39pm

I would never eat my friends - they are bound to disagree with me!
Ignore all prophesies - they are only guessing, just like the rest of us. Tipsters are wrong more often than not. Listen to the real experts like Buffett, Bolton, Lynch, Slater and others, but still make your own mind up based on all the evidence available. Oh, and avoid caves, especially if everybody's on beans!

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