The Waterloo Of The Bears

Published in Investing Strategy on 30 October 2009

The US recession is over. Risk is back in vogue. Is it time to load up on shares?

The US recession is officially over. US gross domestic product (GDP) grew at an annual rate of 3.5%, after shrinking in each of the past four quarters.

God save America. Or should it be more like Obama saved America? It appears the Cash For Clunkers programme, whereby the government rebated up to $4,500 to new car buyers, played a huge part in the third-quarter economic growth. The Bureau of Economic Analysis admitted as much, saying "The third-quarter increase largely reflected motor vehicle purchases..."

As colleague Morgan Housel succinctly put it over at Fool.com… "So, yes, GDP grew handsomely in the third quarter. But an overwhelming amount of the gain was attributable to Cash for Clunkers, which is now extinct. Lies, damned lies, and statistics, people."

Waterloo

Still, the stock market wasn't in any doubt the news was all good, with the Dow Jones jumping 200 points, its biggest advance since July.

The bulls were fast out of the blocks, with Bloomberg quoting William Stone of PNC Wealth Management as saying…"The fourth quarter will be the Waterloo of the bears… We are in economic recovery both in the US and globally, so you will eventually see revenue growth because you are seeing the recovery hold."

Bloomberg also quoted Jeffrey Kleintop of LPL Financial as saying…"The stock rally is not over yet… The stock market can celebrate. This news is an important confidence boost, in particular to individual investors."

Load Up On Shares?

So is it time to load up on shares?

Maybe.

However, none of this US stock jock high fiving should change the fundamentals of investing. Put simply, your goal as an investor is to buy good companies when they are trading at reasonable prices.

Only a few short months ago we had a short window of opportunity, where good companies were trading at great prices. Investors could have made small fortunes snapping up shares like Barclays (LSE: BARC), Vedanta Resources (LSE: VED) and Invensys (LSE: ISYS).

Those heady days have now passed -- a market rising 50% in just under 8 months will put pay to most screaming bargains. In fact, in more than a few cases, it has resulted in some over-priced shares, like Carpetright (LSE: CPR), for example.

Risk Is Back

You need to balance risk and reward. Risk is back in favour right now, most graphically witnessed in the currency markets. With the good economic news coming out of the US, you'd think it would have a positive effect on the US dollar. After all, an economic recovery will ultimately lead to higher interest rates, and from a level of 0%, the only way for interest rates is up.

Yet the US dollar fell on the strong economic news. As reported on Reuters, Michael Woolfolk, senior currency strategist at BNY Mellon, said…"With Q3 GDP living up to its billing this morning, players are returning to the carry trade again, driving the dollar and yen decidedly lower."

The carry trade involves selling low-yielding currencies such as the US dollar and yen and buying currencies with relatively higher interest rates such as the Australian and New Zealand dollars.

The carry trade is a proxy for risk. Anecdotal evidence from the bursting of the last bubble only a few short months ago -- how quickly memories fade -- had Japanese housewives participating in carry trades, selling yen and buying Aussie dollars, on margin, of course. Naturally, it all ended with tears in the sushi.

There May Be Trouble Ahead

There are still plenty of challenges ahead for the economy. Unemployment, both here in the UK and in the US, is incredibly high, and still rising. Negative equity remains a drag on house prices and on the general economy. Consumer spending is likely to be slow to revive.

My advice is to neither be overly bullish, nor overly bearish. Some commentators seem to think it's plain sailing from here. Plenty of others think the road ahead will be full of twists, turns and potholes.

Placing a bet on either scenario leaves you open to major losses. Instead, it would be better to focus on finding good companies trading at reasonable prices. As a hint, with the added attraction of a decent dividend yield, there's a few of them in the FTSE 100 index right now.

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AsterixTheScot 30 Oct 2009 , 9:59am

Good article and would tend to agree. There are definitely some 'green shoots' out there, so am personally cautiously optimistic. My only concern is that these green shoots may take a long time to germinate!

54Nick 30 Oct 2009 , 12:21pm

I agree with AsterixTheScot, the only potential bigger gains are the very high risk ones in Aim sector. Not for the faint hearted.
I also think that post Xmas period (Jan) may offer a few better bargains.

LetsGoa 30 Oct 2009 , 12:23pm

Fake recovery driven by government largesse.

Its going to end very bad.

stu531 30 Oct 2009 , 1:24pm

It's been good for a while, but there are an increasing number of analysts who are saying that it was 'too much, too quickly'. That is, there's all the hallmarks of a bubble. Only time will tell.

gartons 30 Oct 2009 , 1:50pm

I've two words for this article which, if you think about it, are very relevant: Bull S**t.

supersol42 30 Oct 2009 , 4:06pm

Who's going to buy a new car now?

Fingered 30 Oct 2009 , 4:30pm

Bruce,....your articles are just so comicaly hilarious l .....first this
http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/investing-strategy/2009/10/13/ftse-6000-anyone
then this
http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/investing-strategy/2009/10/15/dow-100 00-full-steam-ahead.aspx?source=ufwflwlnk0000001#2
both the above on a top..... Brilliant tining matey.

Now this article...........

You seem to be a perma-bull Bruce and frankly the timing of your articles and views are probably best described as abysmal .....you and TMf team totally missed last years crash, you missed the low in march, you missed the rally in the summer.

I have suggested you take up dancing lessons and give us all a rest from your nonsensical drivel. Your articles are simply positievly mistimed and frankly just outright dangerous.
You probabably couldn't hit a cow in the udder with a bag of rice from ten feet....

But go ahead, please, I need folk like you! ...Pls buy on the dips, fully leveraged , back up your truck and load up on stocks to bounce the indeces back up. :-)

Fingered 30 Oct 2009 , 4:49pm

Judging from most of the points of your artile seems like just a re-gurgitation of the parade of talking experts' opinions on Blomberg TV...Maybe you should consider eatng less red meat takng up knitting?

theoldone1 30 Oct 2009 , 5:00pm

Hi Guys

go easy on these writers-they've got a job to do and the're trying to do it.

No one predicted the crash but I do remember lots of articles on th mf warning about the indebtedness of the uk, so whilst not perfect they are better than some.

I treat these articles like weather forecasts i.e. slightly better than a guess but not a lot and you must dyor. having said that thats a lot better than the main stream press which is usually motivated to sell you some crap product which they're trying to dump on punters and which varies between a down right lie and fraud.

So whilst I don't agree with everything they've said, keep them coming.

Theoldone1

Fingered 30 Oct 2009 , 5:29pm

Fair comment the oldone1 ........

TonyBritten 30 Oct 2009 , 6:25pm

The market is very precarious at this moment and will probably remain so for the rest of November. That means LOW prices and much FEAR. It is also the time to buy GOOD stocks because it does have the look about it of the Father Xmas bounce.
. . . . . . Gord darn it, I knew it would go up . . . sorry, you were too late.

Fingered 30 Oct 2009 , 11:41pm

A contrarian view:

Setting Indeces and individual stock value evaluations aside for a moment, though highly related -

The notion that it's only just now that the risk carry trade story has found
it's way onto a TMF article is a pretty good indication that it'probably pretty much
already over in my view.

Switching gear to another subject for a moment of will they won't they? Umm, aahm
All this infaltion, hyper-inflation, dysinflation, stagflation,
deflation, 'flation , 'flation malarkee and will a central banks do this
or do that or do at or do this with interest rates... ooh, aagh, ooh, aah
expert opinion this expert opinion that ...oh it's so nailbiting isn't it?
It's really really fairly simple folks: ..........follow 3month government bond rates.
Where they go....the central bank within that country is likely to follow.

Switching gear again, for fellow Foolers who would just love a real good read over (albeit a bit lenghty but persevere)
a coffee or two on how governments of both irrelevent left and right political pursuations have systematically, serially and legitiamtely
SCREWED you over with clear concepts of money and banking systems, my gift to you is this:- (enjoy, and have fun :-) ... Best Regards, Fingered )

http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf

RockderktheGreat 31 Oct 2009 , 1:04am

Your article brings to mind that nice old Carpenters song 'We've Only Just Begun'... Get real, Bruce.

figurewizard 31 Oct 2009 , 10:07am

Back in May Axel Wenger of the Bundebank and John Taylor, a respected advisor to the Fed made it clear independently of each other that once recovery in their economies began, financial stimuli would have to be not only halted but put into reverse. When that happens; and this now looks like it's not too far off, we will see rising interest rates and the end of the logic that has driven share values and commodity prices up to levels that bear no relation to the facts of economic life that we are facing today.

RobinnBanks 02 Nov 2009 , 12:37am

Is it time to load up on shares? You are supposed to tell us, not ask us, Bruce!

Fingered 02 Nov 2009 , 6:30am

RobinnB .........exactly, but the article is all wibbly wobbly and just a re-spewing of the "talking head" so called expert opinions (often peddling their own crap to support their positions)along with useless economic statistics from main stream media that is just old news and a complete charade with of smoke 'n' mirrors. (e.g Earnings season for example beating "downgraded analysts expectations - it's just trickery folks! The top line revenue growths are pretty much shot to pieces. ) ......pointless article unless you latch on to his "hint". ...cynically fishing for punters for Fool share dealing service perhaps?

supasap 02 Nov 2009 , 2:57pm

hi fingered yes the article makes fine reading from a libertarian perspective....... agree that whether it is Thatcher or Brown or Cameron governments want control and the fact that they have outlawed gold coinage is criminal. Isn't the market response to this interference, more free and voluntary purchase of gold directly or through shareholdings in gold companies (which I did earlier this year)

Fingered 03 Nov 2009 , 1:53pm

hi Suapsap....... glad you like the article.

Fingered 03 Nov 2009 , 2:18pm

Supasap, the legal tender laws aspect relative to market response to "interference" via mining stocks avaialiblity as a proxy is unconnected. The latter is not neccessarily the optimum way to taking a stake in precious metal commodity markets, so be carfeul......It is after all possible to buy gold from a number of outlets, including even Harrods and vending machines at railway stations these days !!! ( mmmh! Interesting! ) And, of course, the physical metal ownership has amongst oter issues, your lovely favourite customs and excise and taxman folks interested in you along with different VAT implications depending upon the metal. Am I gold bug and fearful of the inflationist scenario? No, not now and not at these prices.

supasap 03 Nov 2009 , 3:52pm

railway stations? guess I must be too busy using those awful ticket machines. Don't you think the governments of the west will be tempted to create inflation (which as the article states they are in control of now with fiat currency) as a way of reducing the size of their debt burden?

Fingered 03 Nov 2009 , 4:56pm

Yep railway stations vending machines of gold bullion....becoming widespread across europe, especially in Germany, though that peddling craze not quite caught on here in UK. Creating inflation ( or attempting a re-flation ) is EXACTLY what the governments are collectively trying to do, firstly they tried with all the interest rate cuts, then, when those pop-guns didn't have too much re-inflationary effect, they resorted to getting out their bigger weapons and have been firing round after round from their QE FIAT bazookas. This is not to decrease their debt burdens ( i.e yours, mine and joe public's - 'cos someone always has to pay for a free lunch ), it's increasing the public indebtedness.

supasap 03 Nov 2009 , 8:41pm

I see, I thought the article explored how inflation benefits the debtors and first users of the new money at expense of creditors and those last to get their hands on new money so if state borrows say x trillion they pay back x trillion less the inflation they have caused....take your point we pay

supasap 03 Nov 2009 , 8:41pm

I see, I thought the article explored how inflation benefits the debtors and first users of the new money at expense of creditors and those last to get their hands on new money so if state borrows say x trillion they pay back x trillion less the inflation they have caused....take your point we pay

Fingered 03 Nov 2009 , 9:32pm

You are getting the idea... :-) So for example, in the case of the US "cash-for-clunkers" re-inflationary stimulus package, it's the first people who participated, (those few consumers along with a few car companies ), who got their hands early on the US government's inflationary bailout dollars who wound up with a tidy little present at the expense of everybody else who didn't particpate early on and thus, these late-comers ( the bulk of the population) missed out and subsidised the early few.

supasap 04 Nov 2009 , 7:53pm

so if the state will create inflation as is its tendency to reduce value of its debt, then won't gold increase in value? I agree some predictions on gold are pretty wild but just as a flight to preserve value I would expect an increase in the demand for the stuff?

Fingered 05 Nov 2009 , 10:18am

Be careful with making a 100% logical link of "because this therfore that" leap of faith on inflation and gold prices right now. ( the good old inflation hedge rationale" ) Just because governments have been trying to pull out of aa deflationary nose dive - does it mean they will have succeeded right now at this time and inflation , or hyperinflation, is about to spread like wildfire? - My view is no. Gold is overpiced in my view. - ( sorry India )

Fingered 05 Nov 2009 , 10:25am

As for an increase in demand for the stuff, my rationale is that you can't use the stuff to pay for your shopping at Tesco's ( legal tender laws) and, Joe Public is a stresssed out bunny, possibly memvers of family are losing jobs etc and he's under pressure. What he needs are those bits of fiat money, and if things get tough,, he'll be SELLING his missus's jewelry to pay his bills, not buying her more of the stuff.

Fingered 05 Nov 2009 , 10:35am

Like all commodities, when you consider price you can't just think of it isolation. i.e You have to think price of gold RELATIVE to what? The £? The $ ? Copper? Coffee? Oranje juice? So here you have the double wammy consideration to take on board due to reserve currency considerations - i.e valueing gold in terms of sterling v dollars. - a triangular inter-relationship to map out.

Fingered 05 Nov 2009 , 11:27am

In your case Supasap you have an added complication as I eluded to above as you have chosen gold stocks as the vehicle to market participation - thus : physical gold ownership (along with a raft of associated ownership issues highly specific to gold itself eg form, weight, ape what, storage, transportation, laws, numismatics, etc etc etc , taxaes) v stock markets v dollar v sterling.

supasap 05 Nov 2009 , 11:38am

it is complicated..... just trying to preserve value...... I thought of buying loads of boxes of cigarettes as they always increase in value (falsely through the state yet again) but it would be both immoral and illegal....... I may have to conform and purchase a swanky car

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