A New Asset Class With Great Potential

Published in Investing Strategy on 2 March 2009

Could this relatively new asset class offer better long-term returns than shares, with lower risk beside?

To compensate for the risk of shares, the market always tries to price them to provide an ongoing return that exceeds that of less risky investments. Hence, over the long-term, shares have always come back eventually to soundly beat the returns offered by cash and bonds.

We shouldn't expect a change in the order of performance of the different asset classes. They are linked to the performance of the same companies, and to the same national and global economies. If shares are dead forever, as many gloomy Fool readers have commented, then bonds and cash are moribund and soon to be even deader.

A new asset class

That's how I expect old asset classes to perform long term. But move over, ancient ones! We have a new asset class with the entry of Zopa. (It's new relative to bonds, shares and certainly cash.) To many, it's still just an intriguing, ethical idea that enables people to lend to other people, removing the banks from the process. To others, it's a huge opportunity to make a fat pile of cash.

Zopa allows you to be your own bank. Not in the modern "let's lend 80 times more than we've got to every illiterate homeowner and businessman we can find" kind of way, but in the sturdy and traditional "sacrifice a tiny bit of savings interest and charge a fat load of credit interest" way. It's a long-term, profit-building bank instead of a global-crisis generating one.

Another reason why it's better to own this bank instead of High-Street Bank Plc is you have no staff to look after with their costly defined-benefit pensions, and you have no shareholders to keep happy and pay dividends to. You take all the profit yourself.

Zopa currently offers around 9% returns on average (before bad debt, although that is very low due to its strict lending criteria). When the economy grows again, along with inflation and share prices, so should the return your bank gets. Banks will raise credit interest rates and so will you and Zopa.

It's about money, not ethics

You're not supposed to hop around trying to maximise your Zopa returns. It's supposed to be about ethics, but a new, exciting asset class isn't going to remain in the control of people whose primary interest is helping others for very long. Inevitably profiteering will win.

With Zopa you have to buy and sell in order to get the best prices. One Fool commented that by doing so he was averaging 10.4% returns. Beating other investors by more than 1% makes a seriously big difference to your long-term returns. How soon will it be, then, before there are Zopa arbitrage programs, which will buy and sell Zopa loans at the best prices automatically?

The future of lending

And when will competitors arrive offering the same service? If Zopa and others start lending to businesses and, dare I say it, to sub-prime borrowers, it'll increase awareness and interest in this asset class further. Indeed, a growth in Zopa-type borrowing may be just one more reason not to bet on banks. Greater competition for Zopa will surely follow, and this will force their loan prices down, lowering the returns that this new asset class offers. 

In the end though, shares will have to justify their extra risk by being priced to perform better than Zopa over most longer periods., Over very long periods of 30 years, say, they'll always have to perform better. Most of my money is in shares, but with returns from Zopa running at 9%-10%, returns on shares are going to have to improve on their recent form quite significantly if they're going to win this particular race!

You can see what other Fools think of Zopa on this discussion board.

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peepobaby 02 Mar 2009 , 11:14pm

Lending is not a new asset class. Its just called savings when you don't have direct contact with the end user. And Zopa makes money from defaults, so its unlikely to stay as default-free as it was until middle of last year. High yield corporate bonds are still a better investment.

LastChip 02 Mar 2009 , 11:50pm

Disclosure: I am a ZOPA lender.

Having said that, I can't help but feel this article has put rather a shine on lending at ZOPA. There is no doubt, good returns can be had, but that's at the risk of lending in the higher risk markets.

If you prefer lower risk, you are going to be hard pushed to make 8% at this time; still good, but before bad debt. And bad debt does exist (as you've pointed out Neil). I can tell you from personal experience, just one hit takes a lot of recovering from. Remember, if you take a hit on your capital, you've got to earn the equivalent in interest, just to break even. I don't think there can be much doubt, debt at ZOPA will increase this year.

As always, do your own research, because although ZOPA is undoubtedly good, it's not a panacea for making unlimited profits, risk free.

Also remember, all interest is paid gross of tax, therefore, if you don't fall into the nightmare known as self assessment, you will as a ZOPA lender.

Well worth looking at though, providing you understand the risks and how to price your lending offers.

NotoriousCanary 03 Mar 2009 , 10:03am

I've dipped my toes in the water as a Zopa lender, and generally been pleased about the ease of lending and the rate of return that I'm getting.

One point that has been under-emphasized is that it is a relatively illiquid form of investment.

Unlike bonds and shares, which you can generally sell on to realise cash instantly, there is no easy way to unwind your lending if you need your lent Zopa cash back in a hurry. Instead money is returned in small monthly amounts and, assuming you are reinvesting the returns, it would probably take 3-5 years to unwind your Zopa investment from the time you decided to exit.

As part of a long-term investment portfolio that's fine, but its not a short (or even medium) term investment.

One last point : I've been thinking for a while that Zopa lenders would benefit from a facility to sell on or transfer loans to others to facilitate a quick exit, if required. If this facility was available, I think I would be encouraged to lend more.

..NC

OhIngardail 03 Mar 2009 , 11:25am

I put a little money into ZOPA a year ago, but so far I've had 4% defaults. This will probably be useful to offset against my tax liability, but that's hardly the point.

There are several problems with ZOPA; one is that money put into it is illiquid (as mentioned above); that is,you put £1000 into ZOPA but can only take £5 or £20 out every few weeks as people pay it back. The other big problem is that you are offering unsecured credit to people you don't know during a period of financial distress.

You have *no* means of getting your money from borrowers who default. That makes this a risky investment and as we are all suffering enough risk anyway at the moment, I'm not sure this is a good idea.

I was willing to give ZOPA the benefit of the doubt until they sent me this email :

"We do our utmost to ensure that your hard-earned money is loaned only to the most credit-worthy of borrowers, so we're really sorry that despite our best efforts, you've suffered some bad debt.

"However, all your losses and more could be swiftly compensated if you were to take advantage of our recommend a friend scheme. Quite simply, for every person you refer to us who successfully gets a Zopa loan or lends at least £2000, we'll credit your account with £50.

"And there's no limit to the number of associates you can recommend."

Ponzi scheme anyone?

NotoriousCanary 03 Mar 2009 , 7:02pm

Hi OhIngardail,

I think you might benefit from reading more about how Zopa works before making your ill-informed comments.

Suggesting that Zopa is a Ponzi scheme is ridiculous to the point of libel. If Zopa was a Ponzi scheme, it would be using lenders money to finance the 'recommend a friend' scheme. You only have to read the T&Cs to understand that lender money is ring-fenced.

You also say "The other big problem is that you are offering unsecured credit to people you don't know during a period of financial distress."

Well - doh! - the whole point of Zopa is to enable unsecured lending and borrowing, so if you don't like it then nobody is forcing you to participate.

You also said "You have *no* means of getting your money from borrowers who default.". Again, this is incorrect since Zopa publish the complete process for recovering debts right up to the point where CRS will buy the outstanding debt from you for a specified amount.

You say "I've had 4% defaults". I'm going to guess that you have either been very unlucky, or you have been pitching your interest rates at a level that does not adequately reward you for the risk you are taking in lending.

Either way, I suspect it says more about your value judgements than about ZOPA.

..NC

Andy46 03 Mar 2009 , 9:52pm

Hi. I've been investing in Zopa since close to the beginning, i think the maximum i've made over any 12 month period after tax, fees and bad debt was 7%. Not that great considering during the time i made that i could have received 5%+ in an instant access account as oppose to having my money tied up for upto 5 years. Bad debt has increased significantly over the last few months and has reduced my returns to around 0. Overall i think its a good way to diversify but don't be fooled into thinking you will actually receive a return of 9%+pa, especially in the current climate.

MF09 03 Mar 2009 , 10:02pm

Based on my experience as a lender on Zopa, I'd bear the following in mind when considering it for lending:

1) The "9% return" is rather historical - since that was first put on the website Zopa have doubled the fees charged to lenders, and bad debt has steadily increased. Coincidentally (?) Zopa also stopped publishing regular updates on the situation with bad debts etc. when it started to rise.

2) Getting money lent out is a lot more diffucult currently due to a very high proportion of borrowers being declined in underwriting. That's not a bad thing in itself, but it means that money spends a *lot* of time bouncing in and out of processing, and to get the money lent out in a reasonable timescale takes lower rates (and hence makes that 9% even more unlikely).

3) If the interest rates attainable elsewhere drop, your borrowers can repay their loan early with no penalty. If the interest rates attainable elsewhere rise, lenders are still stuck with the loan for the remainder of that 3-5 year term - so in volatile times it works to the advantage of borrowers/disadvantage of lenders.

4) The "bad debts" to be factored in (taking Zopa's own estimates, which so far seem reasonable) vary from 0.5% to ~3.5% - pretty clear what an affect on the published "before bad debt" rate of 9% that can have when most of the loans are in the higher risk bands than lower risk bands - suddenly that 9% looks more like 6%...

Overall it's not too bad as lending platforms go (albeit with a habbit of randomly changing the interface without prior consultation and inevitably breaking parts), but that 9% should realistically be nearer 5-6% and bear in mind the lock-in and mind-numbingly slow rate you can withdraw your money if you decide to pull out.

2381nickp 04 Mar 2009 , 9:47am

In many ways Zopa resembles a bank. It charges fees to both lenders and borrowers and it holds lenders' money in an account (that currently pays no interest) while awaiting borrowers. It does all the administration involved in vetting potential borrowers and arranging loans and repayments.

It also pays its staff, provides for their pensions and aims to make a profit for its owners - it is a business, not a charity.

Unlike a bank or building society, what it does not do is share defaults around - if your borrower defaults, you lose whatever he still owes you and this makes quoted average default rates less meaningful.

I have averaged just over 6% return before tax in the 2 years that I have been lending.

It is worth spending a lot of time reading the 'discussion board' on the Zopa website if you are interested in the concept.

Silveraven 04 Mar 2009 , 10:09am

Thanks everyone who has taken the time to enter your comments above as they really filled in the basic details that were not offered in the article, and consequently saved me the time of wading through the Zopa site. Zopa is clearly not as good as the Fool writer would suggest. I have to say I'm getting a bit fed up with Fool articles being light on useful and complete info -it's as if they are written by journos for the sake of writing an article rather than really trying to offer help and good advice. The Fool just doesn't seem to be what it used to claim to be.

TMFVertigo 04 Mar 2009 , 11:44am

Thanks for all your great comments as usual, folks.

Silveraven, our articles can't give you a full analysis of an investment opportunity in 500 to 800 words. Please think of them as a starting point and, in the well-meant mantra of our users, DYOR - do your own research.

It's interesting to read individuals' experiences of bad debt. Answers in our Q&A feature have indicated, even recently, that many people have had very low bad debts whilst approaching 8% returns even in the low-risk market.

Zopa still claims the bad-debt level is just 0.23% on all money to date (that's in four years). Average bad debts up to Q107 were, Zopa claims, 0.1%. However, Zopa does reckon that average bad debt will rise to 1.6%.

I still like shares :)

Neil (the author)

billyboy121 04 Mar 2009 , 12:08pm

I’ve been a Zopa lender since the beginning, drawn to it as a way of ethical lending and also as a new asset class then in a boom time of lending and credit. At my prime as a lender I was making 9% at relatively low risk and in the 3 year or so period I was lending I had two default of £10-20 each, so not that bad.

I’ve stopped lending on Zopa because (1) the default rate can only increase given the economic climate and, as another poster has commented, this default will fall on me and (2) base interest rates have dropped significantly since I started, which has impacted to an extent on interest rates I can successfully offer (3) I have fixed rate loan mortgages and it’s therefore more efficient for me to use the capital to set off or pay off those rather than lend out for fixed terms and pay tax on the income.

Had I not had the mortgage obligations though, I would recommend it as a means of leveraging extra gain for additional risk (as an unsecured lender with no state protection if debtors default). What’s difficult to call is how the default rate will rise. People with impeccable credit ratings can still lose their jobs and with that their means of paying off loans – if it’s a question of paying me or paying their mortage lendor, I think it’s pretty obvious who will lose out.

billyboy121 04 Mar 2009 , 12:08pm

I’ve been a Zopa lender since the beginning, drawn to it as a way of ethical lending and also as a new asset class then in a boom time of lending and credit. At my prime as a lender I was making 9% at relatively low risk and in the 3 year or so period I was lending I had two default of £10-20 each, so not that bad.

I’ve stopped lending on Zopa because (1) the default rate can only increase given the economic climate and, as another poster has commented, this default will fall on me and (2) base interest rates have dropped significantly since I started, which has impacted to an extent on interest rates I can successfully offer (3) I have fixed rate loan mortgages and it’s therefore more efficient for me to use the capital to set off or pay off those rather than lend out for fixed terms and pay tax on the income.

Had I not had the mortgage obligations though, I would recommend it as a means of leveraging extra gain for additional risk (as an unsecured lender with no state protection if debtors default). What’s difficult to call is how the default rate will rise. People with impeccable credit ratings can still lose their jobs and with that their means of paying off loans – if it’s a question of paying me or paying their mortage lendor, I think it’s pretty obvious who will lose out.

Nosht 04 Mar 2009 , 1:39pm

I've been looking at Zopa for a while but now feel that as it is operating as a bank then it will go the same way as banks have gone.
I'm sticking to property but shares are becoming more tempting.

Reagrds,

N.

billyboy121 04 Mar 2009 , 2:09pm

Hi Nosht , not sure that I’d agree that it’s operating like a bank – Zopa is a middleman putting borrowers and lenders together for a fee with the aim to remove banks or other lenders from the equation and sharing that margin between the three parties involved. Unlike the banks Zopa doesn’t lend money itself or try to operate ‘clever’ financial instruments in order to leverage profit. I think Zopa will continue to perform provided that the returns and default rates remain competitive in the face of the rest of the market of assets classes that private investors that access.


Shares- v volatile at the moment, you can make some serious profits but otherwise the converse can happen...

savaroony 04 Mar 2009 , 4:39pm

Disclosure: I work for Zopa

Thanks to all for adding your personal experiences of lending at Zopa.
I wanted to address a few points made here:

-@ peepobaby
We DO NOT make money from defaults. Any charges that are levied are levied by an independent collections agency.

- @ MF09
The 9% returns are an average across all lenders over the last 12 months and are NET OF FEES.
We also update bad debt information monthly and this is made available to users via our website and forum.

While it's easiest to present an average, we do have lenders who have suffered no bad debts whatsoever and of course those who have been less fortunate.

- @238lnickp
If only they did contribute to a pension! :-)

Python1234 04 Mar 2009 , 5:10pm

I am a relative new lender at Zopa, and would first all recommend that anybody thinking of becoming a lender browses the discussion forums.

You do not need to become a lender or borrower, simply register on the forum.

If you decide to become a lender just deposit a small amount to test the water with. You can always withdraw your money (without incurring any charges), which has not gone into "processing" i.e. the process in which your money has been matched with a prospective lender.

Some members simply use Zopa as a more fun way of saving than a bank account.

kininvie1 07 Mar 2009 , 9:17am

I see that Lending Club in the US has managed to convince the SEC to allow loans to be traded, which should bring about a step change in liquidity...

Eventually the same thing may happen here, but I am not holding my breath.

It's also worth tracking down the debate about the future of P2P lending, held in January under the auspices of WeBank, where Giles Andrews of Zopa was pitted against James Gardner, head of innovation at Lloyds TSB. Gardner makes the following point about P2P companies on his blog:

‘If they grow too big, banks will respond. The response will trigger a regulatory avalanche which banks are already set up to manage, but smaller P2P companies aren't. And during all of this, they'll be engaged in a ruinous price war with bankers on fees and other charges. Costs going up, but revenue going down’.

Pikestaff 11 Mar 2009 , 2:20pm

Zopa is really not a new asset class. You participate in a portfolio of loans, which is essentially the same thing as buying an asset backed security. In other words, Zopa is a web based securitisation. Securitisation has a bad name at the moment but is a good thing when done properly - just not new.

Now is probably not a good time to go into Zopa, because default rates are bound to rise in the recession. It would be much better to buy into securitisations where this risk (and more) is aleady priced in. But how best to do this as a private investor? Any ideas?

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