Question Of The Week #1: Index-Trackers Versus Investment Trusts

Published in Investing Strategy on 28 November 2008

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Are UK index trackers the future for spreading investment risk?

Smiley61 tells us...

“I've always been an investor who has tried to reduce my risk and I'm currently investing a modest amount each month into a FTSE ALL Share Index tracker for my young daughter's future.

I've become increasingly concerned that the index is now a million miles away from UK plc, and up until recently was biased towards banks, oil companies and overseas mining companies. None of these have been star performers lately.

I'm beginning to favour more generalist investment trusts with low TERS (<1%). There are some good managers out there (Neil Woodford at Edinburgh Investment Trust).

What do you think?”

Well, I think that’s a really interesting question. We’re pretty keen on index trackers here at Fool HQ. (If index-tracking is a new one on you, read this article.) There are lots of reasons why we like trackers, but this is the biggy:

Index-tracking funds aim to match the performance of the share index they track. But because there’s no actual stock picking involved -- the fund will simply invest in any company which is quoted on the index -- there’s no need to pay high charges for a fund manager.

Many investors still choose actively managed funds in the hope that the expertise of the fund manager will lead to sparkling returns. But despite paying higher charges for this ‘expert’ knowledge, many managed funds don’t actually perform as well as the index or index-tracking funds.

So what you could be getting with a tracker is a cheaper fund which often generates a better return than many more expensive managed funds.

Are trackers too concentrated?

But Smiley61’s concern is that the stocks held in trackers have become too concentrated in certain sectors such as banks and oil companies. I think that’s a legitimate concern. The top ten companies on the FTSE 100 now make up more than 50% of the index with big hitters like Shell, BP and HSBC at the top. So there’s an argument that trackers aren’t as diversified as investors might hope.

That said, huge companies are usually well-funded and offer global diversification through their international businesses. The UK economy is faltering, so a degree of investment exposure in other parts of the world is a probably a good idea right now.

Answering Smiley61’s question, Fool Q&A poster MikeGG1 says:

“To some extent the recent collapse of the banking sector has helped to balance up the equation. By going for an All Share tracker, you are getting much closer to UK Plc than you would with the FTSE 100 because the smaller companies aren’t in the group of companies [such as banks, oil and mining companies] that you wish to exclude.”

(Read his full response and others here.)

An investment in the FTSE All Share Index covers around 99% of the UK stock market and invests in stocks quoted on the FTSE 100, FTSE 250 and FTSE Small Cap indices. In this way it blends large, mid and small cap companies making it more diversified than a FTSE 100 tracker. I think Smiley61 probably has the right idea choosing an All Share tracker over the FTSE 100.

Are investment trusts the way to go?

Smiley61 is worried the FTSE All share will continue to fall and asks whether investment trusts may be a better alternative.

In simple terms, investment trusts are companies which issue shares just like any other stock market listed company. But where ordinary companies use investors’ money to invest in their businesses, investment trusts use your money to invest in the shares of other companies.

Let’s say you want to buy shares in a property investment trust. Your money -- along with lots of other investors’ cash -- will be used by the investment trust to buy shares in a portfolio of property companies.

Unlike tracker funds, investment trusts are run by a fund manager who decides which stocks to buy and sell. So investment trusts have the opportunity to perform better than the index if the manager picks the right stocks. But that’s a big ‘if’. And even though they are actively managed some trusts charge pretty low fees too.

Four favourite investment trusts

Take a look at Fool Editor, Ed Bowsher's four favourite investment trusts here. Ed is pretty keen on Edinburgh Investment Trust which Smiley61 mentions. The trust is run by newly-appointed and very well respected fund manager, Neil Woodford at Invesco Perpetual.

I think there’s a lot to be said for picking a manager with a proven track record. But they do tend to move around, so pay extra attention if a new manager takes over your trust.

The trust invests in UK companies and aims to achieve a return which beats the FTSE All Share Index. Although the trust invests fairly heavily in oil and gas stocks (around 20%), financial stocks only account for 3.3% of its holdings, at the moment, which might appeal to Smiley61.

What’s more, the trust has a really competitive TER of just 0.43%. The TER stands for total expense ratio and covers all the costs to investors. Better still Edinburgh Investment Trust is cheaper than many tracker funds.

But times have been hard for UK stock market investors lately. The trust has fallen a whopping 24.4% in the last 12 months. Putting that in context, it has still beaten its target by outperforming the All Share Index, which dropped 30% over the same period. Nevertheless both returns are pretty dire.

Spread your risk

But it’s very important investors aren’t be too heavily influenced by short term performance. And remember there's no way of knowing which investments will be the star performers of the future.

My advice would be to diversify your investments as far as possible. In Smiley64’s case this could mean spreading investments across a number of trackers and investment trusts to exploit different investment styles and markets.

Look out for Question of the Week #2 next week.

Disclaimer: This article should not be seen as individual advice for Smiley61. We don't know Smiley's financial circumstances so we can't say for sure whether stock market investment is appropriate for Smiley or his daughter, let alone whether he should put money into investment trusts.

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pdcovers 29 Nov 2008 , 9:05am

A tracker to the all share index will IMV always be less risky than an IT.
If you want excitement in investment (and the chance of making the wrong choice and so losing most of your money) go for an IT otherwise go for a tracker fund for most of your money.
If you just don't like your investments going down and like TAX-FREE returns go for index-linked savings certificates from NSI via your nearest post office.

Smiley61 29 Nov 2008 , 10:12am

Hello Jane

Good stuff as usual!

Since I asked the question, I've looked a little further into it myself.

Things I like about the Edinburgh Investment Trust:

1) Low TER
2) Current dividend yield of 6.22% (at 29/11/2008).
3) A healthy revenue reserve to at least maintain the dividend.
3) Defensive portfolio
4) Proven Manager in Neil Woodford.

http://www.theaic.co.uk/find_compare/trustprofile/conventional/performance.asp?id=EDIN

Things I don't like about Edinburgh Investment Trust:

1) Not invested in companies that might benefit from a change in stockmarket sentiment. (Having said that I would expect the manager to time a return to those companies at the appropriate moment).

Yes, the fund has fallen over the last 12 months. But the manager has only been responsible since Sep 2008 and has already changed the portfolio.

Your argument about spreading the risk is important. I do have other investments ranging from cash, fixed rate bonds and other investment trusts and, of course, the index tracker OEIC.

But this opportunity just seems to good to miss. If the share price goes nowhere in 9 years and dividends only increase by 3% p.a., that's still a 67.5% return on the original investment and that's without reinvesting the dividends.

I'm still interested in other people's opinions

Smiley61

thom68 29 Nov 2008 , 11:17am

This is an odd article. It makes sense to distinguish trackers from active funds and investment trusts (ITs) from unit trusts (UTs), but not trackers from ITs. In general, ITs are cheaper and more flexible than UTs and tend to outperform them (though the more flexible investment rules mean that ITs can sometimes be run in riskier ways than UTs). Crucially trackers can be set up as ITs or UTs. There are more UTs around than ITs so UTs may offer more choice. Also as trackers are fairly cheap to run big UT trackers won't necessarily be more expensive than small IT trackers.

The big advantage of ITs is in managed funds. They have lower costs and offer a good manager more flexibility and small ITs often offer niche investments that UTs can't. The trick as always is to find the right fund, but I'd nearly always go for an IT over a UT.

MikeGG1 29 Nov 2008 , 4:01pm

Hi, Jane & Smiley61. Pleased to help.

Jane, would it not have been better to have widened the article to include Open-Ended Investment Companies (OEICs). These are very little known as yet but would complete the risk-spread sector.

MikeGG1 29 Nov 2008 , 4:13pm

Sorry, Jane, but can I pick you up on one point.

You say that with Index Trackers there is no cherry-picking. However, with the All-Share trackers, I think that you will find that probably only L&G and BGI have enough critical mass to cover the whole market. The others match sector-by-sector rather than share-by-share, so are dependent on which shares they choose for each sector.

LordEssex 29 Nov 2008 , 5:21pm

The article totally misses the two key differences that an IT has. The level of debt and the discount to NAV. Ignoring these items makes the comparison irrelevant. The degree of concentration in trackers is a function of the market. Oils, miners, drugs and one bank are still making a load of money. Diversifying into companies that don't is not a rational process.

McEssex

papakura100 30 Nov 2008 , 11:16am

Yes, agree with LordEssex. You can buy ITs at a discount. You can also sell them easily. If you buy at a discount and sell at a premium then you are getting a good profit. Bought FEV at a discount during Gulf War and sold at a premium 3 years later !00%+ profit. Waiting for the share to become attractive again -there is bound to be some more carnage on the stock markets - or might drip as I believe it is approaching good value.

Share tipsters are extremely poor in my experience. DYOR is very dangerous for the unqualified and to an extent has been discredited during current times. UTs and OEICS are to cumbersome to deal and many perform badly. ITs and trackers are a good compromise. They seem a sensible way forward.

Smiley61 30 Nov 2008 , 12:13pm

thom68 andLord Essex makes an excellent points.

Investment Trusts do have the ablility to borrow and Edinburgh I.T. has done a great deal of that with two tranches of £100 million debenture stock that is fully invested out of gross assets of £900 million. This increases the risks in a falling market, but the gearing has been in place for sometime and still the fund fell less than the benchmark index.

Borrowing is something Neil Woodford couldn't do in his Invesco Perpetual Income and High Income funds, so it will be interesting to see how it does over the next few years against the index trackers, its own peers and both the Income and High Income funds

LordEssex 30 Nov 2008 , 4:45pm

From memory the coupon on the EIT is 9%, very
expensive debt these days and not something EIT can afford to redeem early. This makes it a geared play on the market, better in bull markets, worse in bear markets.
And no writes to tell you when we go from one to the other.

TMFJaneB 01 Dec 2008 , 11:55am

Thom68

Thanks for your comments. I do take your point. Perhaps the headline should have been Index Trackers versus Managed Investment Trusts (a little clumsy though I think).

Smiley61 was concerned at the prospect of following the market down by investing in a tracker, which is why - in specific response to his question - I haven't covered tracker investment trusts, but instead focused on managed ITs.

Thanks

Jane Baker

crudcutter 01 Dec 2008 , 10:46pm

The most important investment concept is preservation of capital. So for me the safest investment vehicles are those in which the Investment manager and preferably the board of directors hold the majority (or a large portion) of their personal net wealth.
Thus two standouts for me are :
Personal Assets Investment Trust (even though the lead investment manager just died).

North Atlantic Smaller Companies Investment Trust.

Another one I've had money in in the past (and probably will again) is RIT capital Partners - a multi manager Investment Trust in which auite a lot of Rothschilds money is invested - and if it is good enough for the Rothschilds then it also gets onto my preferred list.

Ian

TMFJaneB 02 Dec 2008 , 10:54am

Hi MikeGG1

You're right there are several techniques for tracking indices such as full replication, stratified sampling or optimisation strategies. And the L&G UK index tracker trust is probably one of only a few which uses the full replication strategy.

That said the aim of these funds is still to match the performance of the indices they track, not to outperform it unlike managed funds. So I still don't think trackers really have the freedom to cherry-pick stocks or ditch those that are underperforming in the way that active fund managers can within their investment mandates.

Thanks

Jane

Smiley61 16 Mar 2009 , 8:37pm

Took the plunge mid Feb and bought Edinburgh Investment Trust for my Portfolio.

Didn't time it quite right (currently down 12.5%) but I have more money to reduce the average price if the shares fall further.

Yield is looking good though, 6.54% assuming the dividend is maintained.

Monevator 19 Dec 2010 , 2:48pm

Like Lord Essex, I think it is worth thinking about investment trust discounts and premiums.

I've found buying on a premium and releasing when the discount closes a pretty profitable way of eeking out an extra few percentage points in recent years.

More here for those who don't know what I'm talking about! ;)

http://monevator.com/2010/08/24/why-do-investment-trusts-trade-at-a-discount-or-a-premium/

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