3 Things To Loathe About Lloyds Banking Group PLC

Published in Company Comment on 18 January 2013

Do these three things make Lloyds Banking Group PLC (LON:LLOY) a poor investment?

There are things to love and loathe about most companies. Today, I'm going to tell you about three things to loathe about FTSE 100 (UKX) bank Lloyds Banking Group (LSE: LLOY) (NYSE: LYG.US).

I'll also be asking whether these negative factors make Lloyds a poor investment today.

PPI mis-selling scandal

The running bill for UK banks responsible for mis-selling Payment Protection Insurance (PPI) has ballooned to more than £10 billion. Lloyds is responsible for the lion's share.

When Lloyds announced its Q3 results in November, the volume of complaints was above the level anticipated at the half-year stage, and the bank decided to increase its provision by a further £1 billion to £5.3 billion. The eventual cost remains uncertain.

The bottom line

Lloyds allowed itself to be strong-armed into rescuing the insolvent bank HBOS during the financial crisis of 2008 and then had to be bailed out by the taxpayer to the tune of £20 billion. Impairment charges since then have reached more than £40 billion, the majority being the writing off of HBOS's toxic loans that were the legacy of its incompetent lending before the financial meltdown.

Lloyds' bottom line continues to suffer from the impairments, showing a statutory loss of £3 billion over the past two years and negative earnings per share (EPS) of 4.6p. That compares with a profit of £3.3 billion and EPS of 58.3p in the pre-crisis year of 2007.

Dividend drought

A popular high-yield share before the credit crunch, Lloyds has not declared a dividend since the takeover of HBOS -- indeed, it was banned from doing so until recently.

It's said that Lloyds' chief executive would like to announce a dividend when the company releases its 2013 results in the spring of 2014. Even if that happens, the dividend will be a mere token -- the current analyst consensus is 0.2p a share -- and a tiny fraction of the last full-year payout of 35.9p for 2007.

A poor investment?

Lloyds' shares have soared 80% over the past year, 10 times the rise of the FTSE 100. The market is forward-looking, and most of the things to loathe about Lloyds are legacy issues that are moving ever closer to resolution.

Impairment charges are falling annually, the banks are negotiating a cut-off date for new PPI claims that could be as early as next summer, and the possibility of Lloyds resuming dividends -- albeit at a low level -- is, at least, now on the horizon.

However, as has been the pattern since the financial crisis, just as things seem to be looking up, a new negative emerges. It was reported this week that UK regulators have given Lloyds and Royal Bank of Scotland until March to start getting to grips with a balance-sheet black hole that one member of the Treasury Select Committee claims could be as big as £30bn.

Balance sheet issues are the main reason why, if I were interested in investing in Lloyds, I would want a good margin of safety in the form of the shares being at a substantial discount to net tangible assets. A year ago the discount was over 50%, but after the super-charged rise in the share price it now stands at just 6%.

Ace City investor Neil Woodford famously sold out of banks before the financial crisis… and continues to avoid them. Woodford's £20 billion funds have thrashed the FTSE 100 over the past five, 10 and 15 years, so there's a lot private investors like you and I can learn from his approach.

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> G A Chester does not own shares in any of the companies mentioned in this article.

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mark88man 18 Jan 2013 , 8:43am

So superinvestors make their names by completely avoiding and boasting about missing the best performing share over 12-18 month period. respect fo rhis achievements but I just don't get this attitude

if there's no bad news today then reprint yesterday's bad news. come on fool I don't expect much from your articles but you have really failed to impress with this one

hibruce 18 Jan 2013 , 10:42am

Lloyds is still in a strong uptrend and until that changes I'm staying with it. After all, who really knows the future of any share?, its far easier to invest in what you see in price action until it changes.

Elasticdemand 18 Jan 2013 , 11:04am

Scenario:

1) Neil Woodford shuns a particular company
2) TMF produces article deriding said company

I think I'm beginning to see a pattern..........

M0byDick 18 Jan 2013 , 11:16am

Hi Diatomaceous

Not actually true. I gave Lloyds a strong positive write up a year ago when the shares were at 23.6p http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/2011/12/22/expert-stock-picks-blue-chip-christmas-crackers.aspx
What's changed is that the discount to NAV at that time was over 50%; now it's just 6%. Hence, I'm wary of the valuation today compared with a year ago.

Foolish best
MobyDick (G A Chester - article author)

M0byDick 18 Jan 2013 , 11:31am

Just to add a bit of detail: Lloyds' most recently reported NAV was 56.6p and the current share price is 53.6p. When I wrote about the company a year ago the NAV was 58.3p and the share price 23.6p.

tinkerg 18 Jan 2013 , 11:42am

I thought Motley was better than this.
.... Obviously not ...
Typical of the cheapskate share tipsters that land on my doorstep every couple of days.
Get a grip Motley, your credibility just fell through the floor.

brightncheerful 18 Jan 2013 , 2:18pm

LLOY is not now what it was pre HBOS, having sold off a load of foreign interests, so really any comparison should allow for that. As for all the impairments and PPI mis-selling adjustments they're all just tax reducing/saving devices that rather put the Amazon and Starbucks ways of tax avoidance in the shade!

When you manage a business that's been on its knees, there's no sense in harping back to the old days: you get it together, taking all the time you need, and then once you're up and about look around and maybe take on something new. The core business is sound, LLOY has a much larger market share and all in all is consolidating nicely and according to plan. Having the government as a benign major shareholder is a bonus.

As for discount to NAV, when I suggested LLOY was overpriced at circa £6 when the nav was around £1 I was told that bank shares aren't valued like that.

Also, LLOY must be doing well because our local branch now opens on Saturday mornings.

elispace 18 Jan 2013 , 2:34pm

I give up!

I unsubscribed from emails today.

2 articles read today and I'm removing this site from Bookmarks!

I have grown, MF has become irrelevant! The articles simply teach me nothing new and mostly leave me frustrated with lack of substance, inconsistencies and relentless promotion of Woodford!

Does MF think we are stupid or am I not your target audience?

BigJC1 18 Jan 2013 , 4:02pm

I would think there is only one thing to loathe - you didn't buy a sack full of shares at 24p.

Why look in the rear view mirror - PPI is simply a government redistribution of wealth, current management had little responsibility for the HBOS takeover (blame Gordon Brown) and lack of dividend was part of the rescue deal.

Neil Woodford has missed out on a 100% gain on Lloyds so why boast about his lack of vision.

A really poor article that fails to consider where Lloyds is heading, core profits, growth prospects, etc.

As for the £30bn black hole do you seriously believe the government would sanction a rights issue to plug it when they are the biggest shareholder - they want out not digging in deeper.

Next article : 3 Things to Loathe about Motley Fool ...............

jrr774 18 Jan 2013 , 4:25pm

BigJC1 - Blame Gordon Brown? What about Daniels and Blank, who sold long term Lloyds shareholders down the river.

BigJC1 18 Jan 2013 , 4:37pm

jrr774: Up to that point deeply prudent, conservative men in grey - something turned their head.

Elasticdemand 18 Jan 2013 , 9:43pm

Actually Moby, I bought £2k worth at 28p and am holding on, not that I'm being smug - I just thought they were worth a punt at that price, without risking thousands.

TMF still seems blind to the fact that the "Neil Woodford love-in" is getting up some poster's backs; (actually,Hargreaves Lansdowne are also fans of his, just a little less blatantly).

corrsfan 21 Jan 2013 , 2:55am

ive been away from mf for years, but am back due to a change in circumstance (new better job,more money etc) , and this site has lost a lot of what it was oh 8 years ago, not to mention this dude neils name being on most articles

TheHowler 21 Jan 2013 , 10:26am

One thing to love about Lloyds - for me at least...its the best performing investment I've made in my three years buying shares. Bought as a 5-10 year hold with potential 5x + upside. Not many FTSE 100 shares can offer you that kind of return and as part of a portfolio its a nice booster.

I'll continue to hold

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