Lloyds vs RBS

Published in Company Comment on 22 December 2010

Which is the better recovery play?

So far I have steered clear of the two major banks bailed out by the taxpayer, Lloyds Banking Group (LSE: LLOY) and Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS). I have missed out on some gains -- this year they have outperformed the FTSE100 by around 20% and 12% respectively.

But it has been a volatile ride, and too full of uncertainly for my taste. The fundamental difficulty I have is that the banks' balance sheets cannot be trusted. Too often the bad news has been drip-fed.

And this continues. As late as 24 November Eric Daniels, Lloyd's CEO, told the Financial Times that the bank's Irish exposure "was not something to be particularly worried about" and that the market's reaction was overdone. 

Just over three weeks later, as Owain Benallack reported, the bank put out a statement indicating losses in Ireland some £1.2bn higher than analyst's expectations.

But as I am fortunate in having no history with these shares, dispassionately, do they now look like a recovery play? And if so, which is the better bet?

Lloyds looks nearer to returning to normality, with its share price (at 68.5p) just 7% shy of the average cost of the government's 41% stake. 

RBS's shares (at 40.2p) are 20% below the cost of the government's 84% stake. And Lloyds seems to have more definitely moved into profitability.

Obstacles

But there are plenty of obstacles along the way, for both banks. These include:

  • Eurozone exposure -- Both have high exposures to Ireland which hopefully are now adequately provisioned, but with weak balance sheets both would be hit by further crises;

  • The housing market -- Deterioration in confidence in the housing market would hit both banks' large mortgage businesses, and the Bank of England warned recently of the pressure on households of increased interest rates and the effect of fixed rate deals ending in 2011;

  • Commercial property -- Half of Lloyds' £60bn commercial property loan book is in its work-out unit, with about one third of that £30bn written off. The bank hopes to reduce exposure by £4bn this year. RBS has similar exposure and is seeking to sell a £3bn portfolio of property loans. At that rate, it will take 7 to 8 years to deal with the impaired loans. Undoubtedly much greater write downs would be needed to accelerate this programme, demonstrating how vulnerable the valuations are;

  • Funding rollover -- The Bank of England has been encouraging all the banks to repay its emergency funding early, before the January 2012 deadline, as it fears a credit crunch in the market as banks seek to refinance these and other wholesale loans;

  • Capital calls -- The National Audit Office has warned that both banks may need new equity to be injected between now and 2019 to meet the proposed Basel III rules, despite the banks shedding non-core assets; and

  • Government share sale -- The NAO has also pointed out that the state's holding in the two banks is six times larger than the biggest ever European share sale -- a £10bn placing of Deutsche Telekom stock during the dot com bubble. To put much of a dent in such a large holding would require selling at fire sale prices (which puts a cap on the share price) or waiting until the banks have good profit records, are well-capitalised and have clean balance sheets.

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Break up

And then there is the question of a break up. Former City minister Lord Myners has called for the government's Commission on Banking to consider carving up both banks to stimulate competition. This would make it easier for new entrants such as Tesco (LSE: TSCO), Virgin or Metro Bank to change the competitive landscape in retail banking.

A break up of RBS looks remote, as does the possibility of this government splitting retail and investment banking. But one member of the Commission, former gas regulator Clare Spottiswoode, has warned that breaking up the Lloyd's/HBOS merger is a serious possibility.

Shareholders would receive value from the split, but Lloyds' dominant market share in retail banking would be diluted. Its outgoing CEO is making much of the previous government's promise to waive competition considerations as an inducement for Lloyds to take over the failing HBOS, but to my mind with the NAO highlighting the problem of selling such large tranches of shares the better argument for a break up may be to facilitate the privatisation.

The Commission will publish interim findings in the Spring and a final report in September, following which the structure of the banking sector will be clearer. The funding situation, Eurozone, interest rates and housing market may look different then too.

For me, that will be the time to consider investing. At present, Lloyds vs RBS is a no-score draw.

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UncleEbenezer 23 Dec 2010 , 12:59am

I held LLOY - for the dividend and the prudent bank that was going to ride the storm - when the HBOS announcement suddenly trashed it. That event turned me from a LTBH investor to a trader, as I bought and sold profitably three times between then and summer 2009.

But I'm not touching them now. The special circumstances are gone, there's no longer an advantage to small investors over the big players, nor a compelling case on fundamentals. Ditto RBS.

Maybe if they were to divert those bonuses into compensating the shareholders who got so comprehensively shafted by dumb, lemming-like lending, and perhaps stop hiding property losses .... dream on.

parolles 23 Dec 2010 , 7:22pm

Another obstacle for the list is the unrecognised but massive toxic debt still in the Bank balance sheets,unrecognised because with a base rate tracker + .25% cost many of these 'bad loans' are CURRENTLY easily affordable - so when BOE base rate goes up these toxic chickens will come home to roost.
A perfect example is a guy known to me who has self certified (lied through his teeth) interest only mortgages totalling £1.75m on properties now worth £1.0m at best,some at .5% some at .79% apr - cost per month less than £950, so the day of reckoning is when rates go up - I fear we've a perfect storm coming with property prices falling and a rise in base rate becoming inevitable.

TomRoundhouse 24 Dec 2010 , 11:27am

Which is the better recovery play?

If I wanted to gamble I would find the next 100/1 shot at Chepstow a better bet and vastly more entertaining.

Merry Christmas one and all!

malaligned 24 Dec 2010 , 11:15pm

Come on guys, why so pesimistic. Lloyds will top 80p before mid-summer, economy picks up, employment picks up, borrowing picks up and life is rosy once again. Split the bank up, no chance, too many government hands in Lloyds pockets to cause an upset

wastedyouth 28 Dec 2010 , 9:55pm

The turnaround will come when either bank resumes a dividend. The recovery play is simply estimating when the dividend will resume. When that happens, instead of valuing on break up value as at present, analysts will switch to valuing as an income stream going concern, so the share price will adjust at that point.

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