Lloyds' Long-Term Glory

Published in Company Comment on 26 February 2010

Lloyds' shares suffer on poor results. What hope for the future?

"…you didn't know all the ways I loved you, no

So you took a chance

And made other plans

But I bet you didn't think that they would come crashing down, no…"

("Cry Me A River" lyrics).

I think of Lloyds Banking (LSE: LLOY) these days as one may a former partner; there's a certain fondness for what once was, but things have moved on, the world is very different today and the betrayal of trust means things can never be quite the same again.

And just in case you've been in a coma for the last year and a bit and don't know what I'm on about; Lloyds took over Halifax Bank of Scotland (HBOS) in January last year, underestimating how many bad loans HBOS had on its books, and had to go cap-in-hand to the government as a result.

Talk is cheap

So is there any hope for future trust? In a word, "yes", but they're still only words only at this stage and talk is cheap. Today's final results for its annus horribilis of 2009 are long on positive rhetoric but short on real performance. The market doesn't like promises and at the time of writing, Lloyds is the FTSE 100's biggest faller on the day.

The bank reported a pre-tax loss of £6.3bn, compared with a £6.7bn loss a year ago -- on a pro-forma basis including the results of Lloyds and HBOS. Impairment charges came in at a whopping £24bn, slightly higher than analysts' expectations.

Silver lining

There is the glimmer of a silver lining today, though. Lloyds said second-half impairments were down 21% from the first half and the bank expects to see a similar pace of improvement throughout 2010, with further substantial reductions in 2011 and beyond.

Despite the losses, total income was up by 12%, to £23.9bn, while costs fell by 5%. Meanwhile, the core tier one capital of 8.1% after the second fund-raising in December is some comfort.

But it's easy to say you're going to do better in the future, and that your head won't be turned by the politicians again. The taxpayer still owns 41% of what us long-term investors thought of as "our" bank; what a joke that turned out to be.

One of the main men responsible for taking the poison chalice, CEO Eric Daniels, reckons the bank is well positioned for the future. "We are building strong earnings momentum and expect our performance to improve significantly in 2010 and beyond," he said today. But just saying the worst has passed doesn't make it so. It's commendable that he waived his bonus, but this is a minor side issue.

He also says all divisions, including retail and wholesale, should show improvements in bad-debt charges this year, whist the commercial real estate portfolio should see improvement due to more stable property prices.

Private or public?

The decision to opt out of the government's scheme to insure bad loans and to raise £22.5bn through the UK's largest ever rights issue was a bold one. In doing so, Daniels managed to prevent further state ownership, unlike the Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS). But private shareholders are still uncomfortable with any direct government control. The sooner this is resolved, the better.

Quite when profitability will be restored, though, is the key issue. The brokers have distinctly mixed views on this issue, though the consensus is for a £2bn loss for the current year.

For the longer term investor, the main question is what earnings will look like in 3, 5 or even 10 years' time. Can Lloyds ever return to the kind of level that enables the bank to resume annual dividend payments not far off its current share price?

I believe it can, if it's allowed to without too much political interference; everything else is short-term noise.

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David owns shares in Lloyds Banking Group.

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MurkyBob 26 Feb 2010 , 2:15pm

I suspect that they have raised provisions against everything, including the kitchen sink, and that time will prove them to have been over prudent. I guess that the release of these provisions will be the main driver of profit in coming years. It should also be borne in mind that they did get HBOS on the cheap. There is also the cost cutting programme that should yield improvements in net margins, for example consolidation of their pensions business under the Scottish Widows fund managers will take a fair bit of cost out of the business. I expect to see the share price hit £1 in 2010.

MarkinLondon1964 26 Feb 2010 , 2:47pm

It should also be borne in mind that they did get HBOS on the cheap.

Well, that's a relief - imagine the state they'd be in if they'd paid top whack for it...

abrahamisaacs 26 Feb 2010 , 3:08pm

If you read today's press release from Lloyds carefully you will see that the £6.3bn loss is based on unaudited "proforma" results. In the proforma accounts they seem to take the hit from all the bad news and ignore the good news.

The official accounts actually appear on page 97 of today's press release and show that Lloyds made a £2.9bn profit after tax. The main reason for this difference is that they bought HBOS at a significant £11bn discount. So while they took a £24bn hit from HBOS impairments, they did not offset that against the £11bn discount when they purchased HBOS in Jan 2009. That is a significant omission and puts the Lloyds results in quite a different light.

The fact that Lloyds made a profit for 2009 is consistent with the fact that the CEO Eric Daniels was entitled to a £2m bonus - that would not have been the case had Lloyds made a £6bn loss.

You can see the full press release for yourself at the link below. Page 97 has the official accounts under International Financial Reporting Standards.

http://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/media/pdfs/investors/2009/2009_LBG_Results.pdf

TonyBritten 26 Feb 2010 , 6:32pm

MarkinLondon1964 (46 yrs old) is wrong. Lloyds did not get HBOS on the cheap. Put these names together - Gordon Brown - Sir Victor Blank - leaned on eric daniels (wimp), Andy Hornby.
Before then you had GUS (Great Universal Stores) - Chairman Sir Victor Blank with Andy Hornby non exec.
HBOS 'CRASH' . . . Andy Hornby found special job in Lloyds by Sir VB for 6 months on £100k to 'help out' with the transfer. Most convenient when things are tough (but don't forget HBOS severance package).
What a load of stinkers.
It will be a long time before Lloyds pay a divi again but this won't affect the stinkers, just the poor old shareholders.
Now if you carefully read the words of lloyds summary on trading results you will realise they are encrusted in a make belief language. Companies always do this when the immediate and the future are dodgy.
None of the people who have commented in front of me are shareholders that's why they don't really know what they are talking about. They sound more like City Slickers.
Incidentally I am a retired banker 10 years of which were spent in Lloyds.

RobinnBanks 27 Feb 2010 , 2:09am

Work all year and make a £6.3bn loss! They would be better off doing nothing! My shares are worth 10% of what I paid, and no dividend in sight! And that includes the rights issue con-trick; and the HBOS shares which have vanished without trace!
They may get it right eventually, but who will be left to benefit? How many pensions have been devastated? Thousands of people living on less money, their life savings decimated, while the cats still get the cream! I can't believe it's legal - but then, look at the MP's expenses!

Dozey1 27 Feb 2010 , 7:59am

I agree with the condemnations of previous posters (especially the sarcasm of MarkinLondon64) however that is then and now is now. Given that government ownership means failure is not an option, and the huge footprint of Lloyds on the British high street, I guess recovery is a reasonable bet over the next 5 years. My heart tells me to swap my Barclays for Lloyds; my head says continue to back proven management.
Only time will tell, but I have learnt that Fools use their heads!

abrahamisaacs 27 Feb 2010 , 12:30pm

TonyBritten, you say "None of the people who have commented in front of me are shareholders that's why they don't really know what they are talking about. They sound more like City Slickers."

I AM a shareholder and do not work in the City. Your assertions are evidently based on imagination not facts. Which is a shame as some of the points you make may have a measure of validity.

dacumm 28 Feb 2010 , 1:20pm

I am a long standing Lloyds shareholder 20+ years.
Why has such a solid bank been allowed to sink so low. Yet The CEO is stll there drawing his fat salary as are other senior executives responsible for this mess. A complete clear out at the top, new thinking and action, is the only way that Lloyds will become a profitable and respected bank again.

abrahamisaacs 28 Feb 2010 , 4:30pm

The odd thing is, Lloyds IS profitable. I am baffled as to why they just issued a set of accounts showing a +£2bn profit after tax (see my first posting above) yet the press appear to have only picked up on the (incorrect and unaudited) report of a £6bn loss.

MurkyBob 01 Mar 2010 , 4:17pm

Have no doubt that some of the provisions made against the loan book will be released back to profit in future years, perhaps sooner than any of us dare to hope. I am a shareholder (HBOS) and will continue as such because I can see the return to profitability and dividends within two years.

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