Seven Bargains In This Crazy Market

Published in Company Comment on 14 November 2008

The recession will last all of 2009. You can turn off the lights and give up, or you can take advantage of the pessimism to buy shares. We name 7 incredibly cheap FTSE 100 stocks.

I’ve been saying for a while now this stock market is a buy. At times, my bullishness has made me look silly, unrealistic, or in complete denial.

I know the global economy is in recession. I know the UK economy in particular is struggling big time, more so than the US and other parts of Europe. In fact, it appears as if the UK economy is in the worst shape out of all Western economies, bar perhaps Iceland.

How could that be? Seemingly the cheap and abundant debt our banks threw at us encouraged us to splurge more than most other countries? Was it our banks or was it us? Submit your answers in the comment boxes below.

Whatever the reason, the reality is the UK economy is in the poop. Consumers have stopped spending. Unemployment is rising, and company after company is announcing job cuts, with struggling but cheap BT (LSE: BT.A) leading the list, shedding at least 10,000 jobs. To top it all off, house prices are still falling, and will fall further.

No Light At The End Of The Tunnel

Right now, it’s hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel. It’s a long and winding tunnel. If you can see any light, any tangible light, again please let us know in the comment boxes below.

I can’t see any tangible light, and I’m an optimist. I hate to think what the pessimists can see this winter through their blackened sunglasses. They’ll no doubt let us know below too.

All I’ve got to offer, and none of these are tangible lights, is the following…

1. Barack Obama. He is the world’s saviour.

2. George Bush is going, soon. Hallelujah.

3. The ever-changing TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) will save the global financial system from collapse. It may need another few hundred billion sooner rather than later, but now the US have got Obama The Saviour, it won’t be a bother.

4. Low global interest rates, possibly as low as 0.5% both here and in the US.

5. Huge infrastructure spending to be announced by the left-leaning governments such as our own, the US and Australia. Then there’s China and their massive 4 trillion yuan (~£400 billion) stimulus plan.

6. Tax cuts and/or benefit cheques and/or mortgage renegotiations.

7. Past recessions have ended and growth has returned.

Pessimists Rule The Waves

The pessimists will say I’ve got nothing, and that this recession is different. Because it involves deleveraging on a massive scale, as companies and individuals are forced to pay back huge amounts of debt, it will be a long and deep recession. Some might say it will last for 5 years or more. Some might point to Japan, where low interest rates haven’t stopped the economy from seemingly being in a permanent recession since 1990.

The pessimists will also point to how on earth the governments of the world, and particularly the US and UK, will be able to service their current debt levels, let alone their forthcoming massive spending binge. If the oil rich Middle East and the just plain rich Chinese stopped investing in our companies and our treasuries, who else would prop us up? Tibet?

Call me an optimist, but I just think things will work out. We’ll be in recession for most if not all of 2009, and maybe some or even all of 2010. As I said, the tunnel is long, dark and uncertain. But when it comes to stock market investing, the best time to invest is in times of pessimism, and there’s clearly no shortage of that at the moment.

Guru To Mortal: Shares Are Cheap

To state the bleeding obvious, it’s also best to invest in the stock market when stocks are cheap. Just about every guru around, including Warren Buffett in the US and Anthony Bolton in the UK, are saying shares are cheap. Not only that, they are buying shares with their very own money.

Despite that, investors remain fearful. If they have any spare cash, they are leaving in the bank, happy to earn ever dwindling rates of interest. If they already own shares, they are selling, fearful of incurring more losses. If they are fully invested in shares, instead of selling the weak and replacing with strong, they remain in a daze and in a deep freeze, doing nothing.

I think stock market investors, sometime over the next 2 years, will look back on these days and think to themselves “what on earth was I doing not buying shares at these absolute bargain prices?”

Here is just a small selection of incredibly cheap FTSE 100 companies. I’ve deliberately chosen companies from a few different sectors to show it’s not just one sector that’s cheap. They all are!

Company

Share Price

Forward P/E

Forward Dividend
Yield

Xstrata (LSE: XTA)

952p

3

3%

Prudential (LSE: PRU)

270p

3

5.7%

Man Group (LSE: EMG)

209p

6

13%

Shell (LSE: RDSB)

1595p

6

6.5%

Standard Chartered (LSE: STAN)

730p

6

7%

WPP (LSE: WPP)

338p

7

5%

Next (LSE: NXT)

1000p

7

5%

There are no guarantees in investing, but over a 3 to 5 year perspective, I’d reckon there’s a pretty good chance the portfolio of companies above should earn you more than leaving your money in the bank.

I have three provisos.

1. You must be able to handle volatility.

2. You must be an optimist.

3. Do your own research and make your own investing decisions.

Good luck.

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Saveaholic 14 Nov 2008 , 9:16am

I agree. The market's looking like a 'buy' to me at the moment. Sure, it might go lower yet, and there's not going to be much good news for the next year or so. But for those with a truly long-term outlook and a bit of spare cash to invest every month, the next year or two look like a period of opportunity for stocks.

During the last couple of years of the boom I got ridiculed for suggesting that it was all looking a bit shaky. I heard the 'it's different this time' argument then too, at that time from the optimists who thought the good times would last forever, house prices couldn't fall and that the debt was manageable. How wrong they were!

So far, being a pessimist when everyone else is an optimist and vice versa has worked well for me. I hope (and fully expect) that this time will be no different.

WallStreetRaider 14 Nov 2008 , 11:17am

Of the three most promising companies out of the seven:

Xstrata has a good growth record but it is forecast to falter badly in 2009, and with the price over 1000p it could come tumbling down. The Net Gearing of 49% is not great either in todays economic climate.

Man Group's forecasts are for drops in EPS in the next two years, again price will possibly tumble down.

Next's forecasts are for drops in EPS in the next two years - price will possibly tumble down.

The seven companies may be good value under Value Investing or another form of investment criteria, but as for growth investing, none of the seven companies are worth investing in at present.

sackchap 14 Nov 2008 , 3:23pm

Is the forward dividend yield on Man correct?

RULESHAKER 15 Nov 2008 , 6:24am

I agree, the market is a buy (some volatility aside). But out of the seven I would only be interested in shell. Poor examples to a correct assumption.

Also important to point out that the companies that came out best from previous recessions are those with relativeley smaller net debt.

I have been buying, but none of these.

mckergow 15 Nov 2008 , 8:29am

I think anyone buying these shares at the moment is foloowing the name of the web site. In 2009 they will regret the buy. Have patience and buy in late 2009.

MalcolmXtra 15 Nov 2008 , 9:40am

You are right mckergow,

the best bargains are when there is blood running in the streets and right now we have seen just a mild graze as opposed to any serious bloodletting.

I am of the opinion that this will be a humdinger - but I have no debt and cash. And I won't be investing this just yet as we are way too early to start talking about recoveries.

We all want to believe that this will be short and sharp. The reality is closer to the time it took for the market to recover from the tech bubble. And that was years, not a few short months.

lazban 15 Nov 2008 , 9:58am

If these shares EVER make any money will those who recommend them be around to tell us when to sell them.

I don't believe in the long term any longer. Just look at the companies who have gone bust or been bailed out in the last few weeks.

Keep your money away from shares unless you're prepared to lose most of it.

Heraclitusll 15 Nov 2008 , 10:55am

Bruce says "at times my bullishness has made me look silly, unrealistic or in complete denial".
Should we really listen to share recommendations from a man whose undue optimism has resulted in the above?!
MalcolmXtra must be right - this recession will be a humdinger and worse than any we have ever experienced. The reasons are that the Brits have got themselves in a mess with debt, our "financial industry" is on it's knees due to past greed, and we don't manufacture much nowadays, which is the source of real wealth. I hesitate to criticise those masters of investing - Wareen Buffett and Antony Bolton, compared to whom I am an amateur, but I have a gut feeling that they are jumping in much too soon. How many of us would buy a house as an investment just now when it seems clear that falls of another 20-40% are on the cards??!! Surely the same applies to most company shares?Guessing that this catastrophe was coming I got out of shares a year ago and put the money into gold bullion (BullionVault.com) and 3.5% Swiss Govt backed bonds. The gold has risen to compensate for the drop in value of paper money as governments print more and more, and the bonds have become 20% more valuable because of the dive in the pound's value.
The Motley Fool clearly has to be commercially viable, which it does by advertising it's share dealing service, as above, and by recommending credit cards etcetera. We Fools would receive a more impartial service if we paid a subscription to the Motley Fool, which could then recommend buying gold or Swiss bonds, on which at present it receives no commission. But I don't see that as a realistic possibility.

Chancer9 15 Nov 2008 , 1:21pm

I agree with brucie, shares are cheap but not sure if they have further to fall. The coming year and reduced profits for alot of companies might reduce prices further.

If buying shares wouldn't purely buy because a company is cheap. Companys with good cash generation and low debt are the ones least likely fail, and most likely to be in stronger position when economy turns.

As to how long the recession will last?. Depends on how long prices, houses, cars etc remain above the reach of the ordinary works man. When these return to accept levels I think better days are ahead.

MrRee007 15 Nov 2008 , 1:26pm

My money is staying firmly in my unsafe bank account rather than plough it into unsafe shares or buying an unsafe property.

Each to their own, but this is going to pan out like nothing we have ever seen before - it could get massively worse ..... or, it could boom and the brave and risk takers will make a vast amount of money.

Am I a mouse or a man? I have squeaked up above!

Mrnutter1 15 Nov 2008 , 1:53pm

Whats going to happen with the Bank shares? are they worth a punt? 4 weeks ago Anthony Bolton was tipping to buy banks share, looks whats happened to them since.

Think there is worse to come yet!!!

Holmstack 15 Nov 2008 , 5:28pm

Was it our banks or was it us?

It was neither, in the UK at least, with to me it all being down to our corrupt Government, (Brown in particular), who have been manipulating the economy for over 10 years now to create a situation where the electorate feel wealthy by maintaining lower interest rates than should be in a free market economy, (with the Bank of England “Committee” being far from independent, with a seat there being dependant on “political” approval), thus letting voters feel wealthy, especially as house prices soared leaving individuals feeling wealthy. All we are doing at the moment is suffering the repercussions of a governmental con aimed at keeping them in power with “The Guardian” jobsters who have had comfortable livings and seen house prices rise being unlikely to not vote for a government that provides their jobs and apparent capital wealth through the rising house prices the government have orchestrated.

Just my 2 p’s worth.

Holmstack

silky55cat 15 Nov 2008 , 6:58pm

Luckily I don't have any spare capital. If I had I think I'd use it to pay off my mortgage. Then I could take better advantage of tumbling retail prices that are already starting to show in a slow market.
Just watch big items like cars, furniture & luxury goods take a big hit. This will show in falling profits for manufacturers and retailers not mention oil companies & raw materials suppliers. That will surely suppress share prices even further.
Of course if MLR goes even lower then my mortgage cost will eventually follow suit. So I could get the best of both worlds.
But shares have got to be a bad bet even at current prices. What you should have done is bought shares in HBOS just before they got bailed out!

beekeeper25 15 Nov 2008 , 11:47pm

I don't think keeping your money in the bank will do you a lot of Good, especially if as suggested rates go down to 0.5%. What will interest rates be then??
What's in the bank will be going down the plughole of inflation.
All we can do is look for value that might hold. We need companies like Shell with good dividends, low debt, and a certain future. The latest report from the IEA says oil is going to go back through the roof as it is depleting faster than new resources are found, and present stopping of investment will mean shortages come much sooner.

Adelphi1968 16 Nov 2008 , 10:57am

I think at the moment the companies to invest in are retail chain stores like the £1 shops. They are thriving at the moment. The ordinary working man is unable to buy luxury goods but has to buy some essential things and they are looking to the "cheapy shops". I can't remember the profits for these shops that were recently reported in the press as rising quickly as are all cheap value supermarkets such as Aldi but I think this will continue for many months to come as people are forced to reign in their spending on essentials like food, clothing and household goods while they bail themselves out of debt.

I am not a share prophet and have little experience of investing so this is just the opinion of someone who is not rich but just one of the ordinary working class people who also is having to watch the pennies and this is the concensus of most of the people I know which is good indicator of what is happening in the retail market.

As for the companies mentioned by Fool, the only one I know and would agree with is Shell which let's face it has proven track record of making billions out of oil out of the rest of us who have no choice but to use it, so I would imagine this is a safe bet still for the future.

Adelphi1968 16 Nov 2008 , 11:03am

I see Philip Green (reported here today) agrees with me that retail stores such as Instore and Poundstretcher are a good buy in today's economic climate!

Chancer9 16 Nov 2008 , 12:11pm

I'm not so sure about oil over the next year or so. I think the rising oil price was driven by China going like a piston to finish the Olympic stadiums etc and some speculation. Now this is done and demand for Chinese goods from the west is reducing the demand for oil will reduce also.

There's also lots of stories of airlines cutting routes and parking up planes, again reducing demand. For the moment, due to shrinking of many industries, I only see oil demand going down and prices with it for the next year.

Still it will help to reduce outgoings.

wally144 16 Nov 2008 , 3:33pm

For those with money to invest, I would recommend investing in the 'alternative energy' sector. Wind and solar power is going to grow significantly over the next years, in spite of a recession, because governments are beginning to mandate that a significant percentage of our energy comes from non-oil sources.
Pick your companies carefully, and in four or five years you will be 'quids in'.

thirty06 17 Nov 2008 , 11:03am

It's panto season so here comes



KR: It is I, King Rat !!

All: Booooo!

BJ: Unemployment is rising, and company after company is announcing job cuts, with struggling but cheap BT (LSE: BT.A) leading the list, shedding at least 10,000 jobs.

KR : Good !! now my dividends are safer. Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaarrrr!!

All: Booooo!

BJ: At times, my bullishness has made me look silly, unrealistic, or in complete denial.

KR : Doesn't he look silly boys and girls ?

All: Yeeesss!

BJ: Oh no I don't!

KR: See the above quote, 'inconsistent' too.

BJ: If you can see any light, any tangible light.

KR: It's a big shiny, bubble and "It's Behind You!"

BJ: where ?

All: It's Behind you!

BJ: where ?

All: Behiiinnnddd you !!!

KR: Just like the rising stock market where any fool can pick a winner. And what's more!

BJ: aaah!

KR: Did that hurt?

BJ: No, actually I didn't feel a thing.

KR: That's because light isn't tangible. Except possible infra red which can be detected as heat, but then you can't see it.


Jack: Who'll buy daisy the cow ?

BJ: Farming is a heavily indebted sector and food suppliers are worse. Is food even a safe market ?

KR: I'll give you magic beans. what say to two beans a bean and a half and a bean and a half a bean ?

Jack: That's better than I got from him for Daisy's husband and the rooster.

KR: What did he give you ?

Jack: Share tips, now I've got to sell the cow.

KR: Hmmm... a cock and a bull for
Never mind. Here's a riddle for you all. Why is King rat like a stock market boom ?

BJ: I don't know. Why is King rat like a stock market boom ?

teecee90 17 Nov 2008 , 12:38pm

My philosophy at the moment:

1) Make sure you have 4-6 months sallary available in cash as an emergency fund, but dont top-up cash beyond this with interest rates going down down deeper and down.

2) Split any spare income 50/50 between a regular investment into a tracker fund and overpaying your mortgage (if you have one).

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Can you recommend a "paid subscription" service worth its salt?

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LindaMayRumble 22 Nov 2008 , 12:22pm

The problem seems to have eminated from our banks becoming more inextricably linked to the global economy... where rules are lax, noone is in control, laisser faire has not worked and the entire banking system has run out of control in a very irresponsible way.

Boydey 22 Nov 2008 , 5:42pm

'The recession will last all of 2009'. Wow you know that for sure?
Another Fool lets be really depressing article...yawn, yawn

Saveaholic 14 Nov 2008 , 9:16am

I agree. The market's looking like a 'buy' to me at the moment. Sure, it might go lower yet, and there's not going to be much good news for the next year or so. But for those with a truly long-term outlook and a bit of spare cash to invest every month, the next year or two look like a period of opportunity for stocks.

During the last couple of years of the boom I got ridiculed for suggesting that it was all looking a bit shaky. I heard the 'it's different this time' argument then too, at that time from the optimists who thought the good times would last forever, house prices couldn't fall and that the debt was manageable. How wrong they were!

So far, being a pessimist when everyone else is an optimist and vice versa has worked well for me. I hope (and fully expect) that this time will be no different.

WallStreetRaider 14 Nov 2008 , 11:17am

Of the three most promising companies out of the seven:

Xstrata has a good growth record but it is forecast to falter badly in 2009, and with the price over 1000p it could come tumbling down. The Net Gearing of 49% is not great either in todays economic climate.

Man Group's forecasts are for drops in EPS in the next two years, again price will possibly tumble down.

Next's forecasts are for drops in EPS in the next two years - price will possibly tumble down.

The seven companies may be good value under Value Investing or another form of investment criteria, but as for growth investing, none of the seven companies are worth investing in at present.

sackchap 14 Nov 2008 , 3:23pm

Is the forward dividend yield on Man correct?

RULESHAKER 15 Nov 2008 , 6:24am

I agree, the market is a buy (some volatility aside). But out of the seven I would only be interested in shell. Poor examples to a correct assumption.

Also important to point out that the companies that came out best from previous recessions are those with relativeley smaller net debt.

I have been buying, but none of these.

mckergow 15 Nov 2008 , 8:29am

I think anyone buying these shares at the moment is foloowing the name of the web site. In 2009 they will regret the buy. Have patience and buy in late 2009.

MalcolmXtra 15 Nov 2008 , 9:40am

You are right mckergow,

the best bargains are when there is blood running in the streets and right now we have seen just a mild graze as opposed to any serious bloodletting.

I am of the opinion that this will be a humdinger - but I have no debt and cash. And I won't be investing this just yet as we are way too early to start talking about recoveries.

We all want to believe that this will be short and sharp. The reality is closer to the time it took for the market to recover from the tech bubble. And that was years, not a few short months.

lazban 15 Nov 2008 , 9:58am

If these shares EVER make any money will those who recommend them be around to tell us when to sell them.

I don't believe in the long term any longer. Just look at the companies who have gone bust or been bailed out in the last few weeks.

Keep your money away from shares unless you're prepared to lose most of it.

Heraclitusll 15 Nov 2008 , 10:55am

Bruce says "at times my bullishness has made me look silly, unrealistic or in complete denial".
Should we really listen to share recommendations from a man whose undue optimism has resulted in the above?!
MalcolmXtra must be right - this recession will be a humdinger and worse than any we have ever experienced. The reasons are that the Brits have got themselves in a mess with debt, our "financial industry" is on it's knees due to past greed, and we don't manufacture much nowadays, which is the source of real wealth. I hesitate to criticise those masters of investing - Wareen Buffett and Antony Bolton, compared to whom I am an amateur, but I have a gut feeling that they are jumping in much too soon. How many of us would buy a house as an investment just now when it seems clear that falls of another 20-40% are on the cards??!! Surely the same applies to most company shares?Guessing that this catastrophe was coming I got out of shares a year ago and put the money into gold bullion (BullionVault.com) and 3.5% Swiss Govt backed bonds. The gold has risen to compensate for the drop in value of paper money as governments print more and more, and the bonds have become 20% more valuable because of the dive in the pound's value.
The Motley Fool clearly has to be commercially viable, which it does by advertising it's share dealing service, as above, and by recommending credit cards etcetera. We Fools would receive a more impartial service if we paid a subscription to the Motley Fool, which could then recommend buying gold or Swiss bonds, on which at present it receives no commission. But I don't see that as a realistic possibility.

Chancer9 15 Nov 2008 , 1:21pm

I agree with brucie, shares are cheap but not sure if they have further to fall. The coming year and reduced profits for alot of companies might reduce prices further.

If buying shares wouldn't purely buy because a company is cheap. Companys with good cash generation and low debt are the ones least likely fail, and most likely to be in stronger position when economy turns.

As to how long the recession will last?. Depends on how long prices, houses, cars etc remain above the reach of the ordinary works man. When these return to accept levels I think better days are ahead.

MrRee007 15 Nov 2008 , 1:26pm

My money is staying firmly in my unsafe bank account rather than plough it into unsafe shares or buying an unsafe property.

Each to their own, but this is going to pan out like nothing we have ever seen before - it could get massively worse ..... or, it could boom and the brave and risk takers will make a vast amount of money.

Am I a mouse or a man? I have squeaked up above!

Mrnutter1 15 Nov 2008 , 1:53pm

Whats going to happen with the Bank shares? are they worth a punt? 4 weeks ago Anthony Bolton was tipping to buy banks share, looks whats happened to them since.

Think there is worse to come yet!!!

Holmstack 15 Nov 2008 , 5:28pm

[b]Was it our banks or was it us?[/b]

It was neither, in the UK at least, with to me it all being down to our corrupt Government, (Brown in particular), who have been manipulating the economy for over 10 years now to create a situation where the electorate feel wealthy by maintaining lower interest rates than should be in a free market economy, (with the Bank of England “Committee” being far from independent, with a seat there being dependant on “political” approval), thus letting voters feel wealthy, especially as house prices soared leaving individuals feeling wealthy. All we are doing at the moment is suffering the repercussions of a governmental con aimed at keeping them in power with “The Guardian” jobsters who have had comfortable livings and seen house prices rise being unlikely to not vote for a government that provides their jobs and apparent capital wealth through the rising house prices the government have orchestrated.

Just my 2 p’s worth.

Holmstack

silky55cat 15 Nov 2008 , 6:58pm

Luckily I don't have any spare capital. If I had I think I'd use it to pay off my mortgage. Then I could take better advantage of tumbling retail prices that are already starting to show in a slow market.
Just watch big items like cars, furniture & luxury goods take a big hit. This will show in falling profits for manufacturers and retailers not mention oil companies & raw materials suppliers. That will surely suppress share prices even further.
Of course if MLR goes even lower then my mortgage cost will eventually follow suit. So I could get the best of both worlds.
But shares have got to be a bad bet even at current prices. What you should have done is bought shares in HBOS just before they got bailed out!

beekeeper25 15 Nov 2008 , 11:47pm

I don't think keeping your money in the bank will do you a lot of Good, especially if as suggested rates go down to 0.5%. What will interest rates be then??
What's in the bank will be going down the plughole of inflation.
All we can do is look for value that might hold. We need companies like Shell with good dividends, low debt, and a certain future. The latest report from the IEA says oil is going to go back through the roof as it is depleting faster than new resources are found, and present stopping of investment will mean shortages come much sooner.

Adelphi1968 16 Nov 2008 , 10:57am

I think at the moment the companies to invest in are retail chain stores like the £1 shops. They are thriving at the moment. The ordinary working man is unable to buy luxury goods but has to buy some essential things and they are looking to the "cheapy shops". I can't remember the profits for these shops that were recently reported in the press as rising quickly as are all cheap value supermarkets such as Aldi but I think this will continue for many months to come as people are forced to reign in their spending on essentials like food, clothing and household goods while they bail themselves out of debt.

I am not a share prophet and have little experience of investing so this is just the opinion of someone who is not rich but just one of the ordinary working class people who also is having to watch the pennies and this is the concensus of most of the people I know which is good indicator of what is happening in the retail market.

As for the companies mentioned by Fool, the only one I know and would agree with is Shell which let's face it has proven track record of making billions out of oil out of the rest of us who have no choice but to use it, so I would imagine this is a safe bet still for the future.

Adelphi1968 16 Nov 2008 , 11:03am

I see Philip Green (reported here today) agrees with me that retail stores such as Instore and Poundstretcher are a good buy in today's economic climate!

Chancer9 16 Nov 2008 , 12:11pm

I'm not so sure about oil over the next year or so. I think the rising oil price was driven by China going like a piston to finish the Olympic stadiums etc and some speculation. Now this is done and demand for Chinese goods from the west is reducing the demand for oil will reduce also.

There's also lots of stories of airlines cutting routes and parking up planes, again reducing demand. For the moment, due to shrinking of many industries, I only see oil demand going down and prices with it for the next year.

Still it will help to reduce outgoings.

wally144 16 Nov 2008 , 3:33pm

For those with money to invest, I would recommend investing in the 'alternative energy' sector. Wind and solar power is going to grow significantly over the next years, in spite of a recession, because governments are beginning to mandate that a significant percentage of our energy comes from non-oil sources.
Pick your companies carefully, and in four or five years you will be 'quids in'.

thirty06 17 Nov 2008 , 11:03am

It's panto season so here comes



KR: It is I, King Rat !!

All: Booooo!

BJ: Unemployment is rising, and company after company is announcing job cuts, with struggling but cheap BT (LSE: BT.A) leading the list, shedding at least 10,000 jobs.

KR : Good !! now my dividends are safer. Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaarrrr!!

All: Booooo!

BJ: At times, my bullishness has made me look silly, unrealistic, or in complete denial.

KR : Doesn't he look silly boys and girls ?

All: Yeeesss!

BJ: Oh no I don't!

KR: See the above quote, 'inconsistent' too.

BJ: If you can see any light, any tangible light.

KR: It's a big shiny, bubble and "It's Behind You!"

BJ: where ?

All: It's Behind you!

BJ: where ?

All: Behiiinnnddd you !!!

KR: Just like the rising stock market where any fool can pick a winner. And what's more!

BJ: aaah!

KR: Did that hurt?

BJ: No, actually I didn't feel a thing.

KR: That's because light isn't tangible. Except possible infra red which can be detected as heat, but then you can't see it.


Jack: Who'll buy daisy the cow ?

BJ: Farming is a heavily indebted sector and food suppliers are worse. Is food even a safe market ?

KR: I'll give you magic beans. what say to two beans a bean and a half and a bean and a half a bean ?

Jack: That's better than I got from him for Daisy's husband and the rooster.

KR: What did he give you ?

Jack: Share tips, now I've got to sell the cow.

KR: Hmmm... a cock and a bull for
Never mind. Here's a riddle for you all. Why is King rat like a stock market boom ?

BJ: I don't know. Why is King rat like a stock market boom ?

teecee90 17 Nov 2008 , 12:38pm

My philosophy at the moment:

1) Make sure you have 4-6 months sallary available in cash as an emergency fund, but dont top-up cash beyond this with interest rates going down down deeper and down.

2) Split any spare income 50/50 between a regular investment into a tracker fund and overpaying your mortgage (if you have one).

Runnindogs 19 Nov 2008 , 12:05pm

Colin106

Can you recommend a "paid subscription" service worth itssalt?

Thanks

RD

Runnindogs 19 Nov 2008 , 12:05pm

Colin106

Can you recommend a "paid subscription" service worth its salt?

Thanks

RD

LindaMayRumble 22 Nov 2008 , 12:22pm

The problem seems to have eminated from our banks becoming more inextricably linked to the global economy... where rules are lax, noone is in control, laisser faire has not worked and the entire banking system has run out of control in a very irresponsible way.

Boydey 22 Nov 2008 , 5:42pm

'The recession will last all of 2009'. Wow you know that for sure?
Another Fool lets be really depressing article...yawn, yawn

irishjohn68 23 Feb 2009 , 2:35pm

Picking stock at the top of the market is risky and not for the faint hearted. Surely at the moment , regardless of how long the recession lasts, picking winners is akin to shooting fish in the proverbial barrel. We all like to talk with the benefit of hindsight, now we get the chance to act with the benefit of it. Disasters always favour scavengers, aspire to be 'King Rat'!

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