2 More Reasons To Avoid Banks

Published in Investing on 30 May 2012

The banking sector faces competition from internet giants and a new technology.

It's hard to think of a legal industry that has a worse reputation among the general public than banking, except maybe the arms trade. The banks, especially The Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS) and HBOS, brought this upon themselves after the government bailed them out in 2008-09 to stop them from collapsing the financial system.

What has really upset most people is that having received loads of bailout money from the taxpayer, most of which went to pay their creditors, they continued to pay big bonuses to the same people who bore some responsibility for this disaster.

While these banks are repairing their balance sheets, they are now facing competition from the internet commerce giants and a new technology that threatens to take away a large part of their business.

A terrible investment

Bank shares have been a terrible investment in recent times, with a few exceptions such as Standard Chartered (LSE: STAN) whose shares are up by over 65% in the last 10 years. In contrast, Barclays (LSE: BARC) has seen its share price fall by some 70% during the same period even though it didn't need a bailout.

If the performance of banking shares wasn't enough to put investors off the sector, the banks will soon be facing competition from a new technology that turns mobile phones into wallets thus bypassing their payments system.

The performance of bank shares is important to investors who own FTSE 100 trackers, because they represent almost 12% of the index.

Competition comes in many forms

Over the years, many industries have been wiped out by competition from a totally different part of the economy thanks to the invention of a product that is a good substitute for its goods and services. These newcomers can quickly grab a large piece of the market, while the incumbents struggle to compete because of their legacy costs.

A good example is the fate of the newspaper business, which has imploded under competition from the internet.

The record companies gave much of their business away to Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL.US) by letting it establish a stranglehold over MP3 distribution through its iTunes store. This was after Napster had shown that many consumers were fed up with being forced to pay for a lot of songs on a CD that they didn't want in order to get the few that they really wanted.

PayPal is a big bank

Increasingly, the banks and credit card companies are discovering that companies like eBay (NASDAQ: EBAY.US) and Google (NASDAQ: GOOG.US) are muscling in on their market through the increasing use of their electronic payment systems.

While eBay bought PayPal in 2002 in order to let its customers to safely send money over the internet to complete strangers, it is now one of the world's largest "banks" with over 100 million active account holders. That's a lot of customers, and PayPal could easily use this base to turn itself into a business that goes head to head with the banks.

Some of the banks' other markets are under attack from internet commerce. For example, Amazon.com (NASDAQ: AMZN.US) has taken a chunk of the credit card market by offering its own card. Another thing to watch out for is the spread of peer-to-peer lending through firms like Zopa, which started off by lending to consumers but is now expanding into small business loans.

Pay by phone

The thing that could reshape the landscape is near field communications (NFC), a relatively new technology, where mobile telephones would be used to settle transactions using digital cash. NFC technology is similar to that used in the Oyster card on the London Underground, but with much higher levels of security.

One of my "tech stock punts" -- those very speculative investments where I'm prepared to lose the lot -- is a relatively small holding in the Dutch company NXP Semiconductors (NASDAQ: NXPI.US), which is the market leader in NFC technology. But NFC is a very competitive market and other companies are already nipping at NXP's heels.

The use of mobile phones for making small payments has been common in some countries for several years, notably Finland and Japan, but NFC promises to raise this to a whole new level. Once NFC technology comes as standard in smartphones, and there are strong rumours that Apple's next iPhone will have NFC, the market should take off.

Given that the mobile telephone network operators have plenty of experience in operating micropayment systems, it would not be a surprise to see someone like Vodafone (LSE: VOD) set up its own banking arm to take on the high-street banks!

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> Tony owns shares in NXP Semiconductors. The Motley Fool owns shares in Google.

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tux222 30 May 2012 , 11:45am

The article missed out the supermarkets, who have a huge branch network and cash handling facilities. Also, I think, trust. I'd sooner bank with Sainsbury's (or even Tesco) than with any UK retail bank except, possibly, HSBC.

goodlifer 30 May 2012 , 12:48pm

I hear what you say, but Barclays still look a bargain to me: around six times earnings, and with a bit of a well covered dividend.

I've been one of their customers since wayback, and they've always been pretty reasonable.

That's by the way of course.

WealthyInvestor 30 May 2012 , 1:38pm

I love all of the negativity about banks, it is creating some great opportunities for those ruled by their head. Banks are not static dinosaurs, they are moving fast. You only have to view the way in which some of the progressive banks are engaging with emergent mobile technologies to see this. What with the ongoing financial crisis, mania and hysteria over the collapse of Europe (whatever that would mean exactly) the intelligent investor really has never had it do good. long may it continue.

WealthyInvestor 30 May 2012 , 1:40pm

I meant SO good. Damn this iPad keyboard...... ;)

tru2me 30 May 2012 , 3:12pm

Another thing to watch out for is the spread of peer-to-peer lending through firms like Zopa, which started off by lending to consumers but is now expanding into small business loans.

Tony in case you did not know?
The dedicated P2B platform is Funding Circle, lending to SME's.

LastChip 30 May 2012 , 5:21pm

I don't agree with the premise of this article at all.

PayPal is great in it's niche market. For those small businesses that need an ecommerce payment gateway, it's hard to beat, but expensive. But if you were a major business looking for a gateway for multiple operations; ecommerce, physical buildings, electronic transfer, physical credit card payments and so on, it's not a viable option.

You still need banks.

Furthermore Zopa, Funding Circle and the like, can only offer relatively small loans. If you were a business looking to expand and say needed £250m, you're not going to get it from them.

You still need banks.

Banks have been a terrible investment have they? Not for me. Buying Barclays at around 80p, proved to be a wise decision and one I've not regretted at all.

Did I sell out at the top? No! Because I'm happy to collect substantial dividends along the way and will continue to do so. Nice little retirement income.

When Europe collapses, banks will tumble - no question about it. But they'll rise from the ashes, and shrewd investors will be there buying bucket loads. See you there!

TonyTwoTimes 30 May 2012 , 6:22pm

Hi LastChip,

It's quite possible that near field communications payment systems run by the mobile phone companies will replace credit card and debit card transactions for many people.

http://www.computerweekly.com/feature/Near-field-comms-How-are-mobile-payments-changing-traditional-banking

This has been happening in Japan for quite some time and it's the sort of development that can really disrupt markets.

The mobile phone companies have already realised that their experience in handling billing systems can be easily transferred to cover this, and are starting to apply for banking licences.

There are plenty of other things which can eat away at the banks business which I left out of the article. Companies accessing the bond markets for one and as tux222 has pointed out the supermarkets (people trust them, unlike the banks).

As to banks not being a terrible investment, anyone who bought RBS or LloydsTSB before its directors decided to ruin it by buying HBOS would probably differ with you :-)

Cheers!

TonyL

jaizan 30 May 2012 , 7:42pm

Whilst I have ebay shares purchased at $21, I don't see Paypal (etc) as the main threat to banks. In fact, the increased competition there will be more than offset by reduced competition arising from banking consolidation over the last 5 years.
Also, all my Paypal transactions result in the money being debited from my normal bank account anyhow.
No, the big downside risk is dodgy loans, such as banks lending to the PIIGs, either directly or indirectly.

LastChip 30 May 2012 , 7:48pm

A perfectly valid response TonyL.

Near field communications leave a lot to be desired, mainly due to the radio technology used. You only have to go back to the News International hacking scandal to see how weak it is. Do a search for NFC hack and you'll get over 1.8m results. Personally, unless that was improved dramatically, I wouldn't touch it. But to the great unwashed, most would probably know no different. So a perfectly valid point.

Whether anything is a terrible investment depends upon at what price you buy. Now, that may seem an obvious statement, but one I feel the Fool does not promote sufficiently. Writers here toe the party line and repeat the often used "over time it'll all work out". The truth is, in many cases it won't. Like any market, it's all about buying at the right price - risk/reward management. And frankly, it took me longer than it should have done to realise that simple truth. Once I sussed that out, things improved!

Not so very long ago, the Fool was urging everyone to pile in Tesco's at around 380. An absolute bargain you all said (in fairness, I can't recall if you were on the same band wagon). Does that hold true now?

Heard instinct is alive and well. Not only amongst the general public, but institutions as well. Break away from that, and you're likely to get better results.

TonyTwoTimes 31 May 2012 , 7:49am

Hi LastChip,

Credit cards are as insecure NFC, if not more, yet that doesn’t stop people from using them (12.8 million references on Google to “credit card hack).

Eventually the NFC technology will be sorted out. There’s too much money to be made from it.

I just happen to believe that the gains from this will bypass the banks.

So my bet (and I do view it in terms of win or complete loss of investment) has gone on NXP’s technology prevailing in the marketplace.

Two stories about banks recently got my attention:

1) Government to give £100m to alternative lenders
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18273739

2) RBS Shareholders will never recover the money they lost (no surprise there)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9300783/RBS-shareholders-will-never-recover-money-they-lost.html

Had RBS been beaten by Barclays in the bidding for ABN-AMRO, Barclays would now be majority-owned by the taxpayer and Fred The Shred would still be Sir Fred.

Yes, the price you pay determines your returns. As Buffett says “price is what you pay, value is what you get.” I prefer to buy shares in a great business at a reasonable price rather than in a poor business at a good price.

As to Tesco, I’m more of a Sainsbury’s man myself and got some of these at well below the current price :-)

I mention Tesco now and again in my articles but I have no strong opinion on them.

Cheers,

TonyL

jobbones 31 May 2012 , 12:42pm

On the Near field Comms topic NXP has one particularly strong competitor, technologically at least, in Inside Security. They have an end to end NFC solution including the secure access. They have also recently IPO'd at Eu 9 and flopped to <3.
Does this put them in takeover territory?
Like NXP they only appear on Nasdac and Paris, so there is also the currency risk.
As a comms engineer, I like their technology, as a potential (novice) investor I'm still watching both companies.

snikmij 31 May 2012 , 2:25pm

Hasn't Barclays started a credit card with NFC and personally I have a MBNA card with Pay Pass for use with NFC devices.

As for avoiding banks, I do so in the literal sense as I got fed up with there pressure selling techniques when I go into there branches.

jobbones 31 May 2012 , 2:41pm

At least one major credit card company is backing Inside Security, the house will always win.
However, if, when these chips are in all credit cards and phones someone will be raking it in and it's likely to be one or both of the top two players.
NXP looks safer, they have a very wide portfolio of electronic components, Inside could have a technological edge in their security specialism.

snoekie 31 May 2012 , 3:35pm

Lastchip, "heard instinct", love it, loose lips and all that!

Or is it your voice prog "misherd" you?

LastChip 31 May 2012 , 3:59pm

Damn! snoekie, you spotted it.

Only noticed it after I hit the post button. :-(

snoekie 31 May 2012 , 6:00pm

Yep, pity there is no edit button...........

We can but wish.

ANuvver 31 May 2012 , 10:21pm

Didn't really need another two reasons to avoid banks, but thanks all the same.

Oh, and they aren't repairing their balance sheets - we are. In oh so many ways.



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