A Banking Bonus For Everyone

Published in Investing on 22 February 2010

True banking bonuses for everyone are years away. Here's a better way.

As politics goes, the Conservative Party's "people's bonus" of offering the public discounted shares in part-nationalised banks has to go down as one of the most crass stunts in recent memory.

Shadow chancellor George Osbourne said a Tory government would attempt to "recapitalise the poor" via a public offering of Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS) and Lloyds Banking Group (LSE: LLOY) shares with "special" terms for small investors.

"The bankers have had their bonuses. We want a people's bank bonus for the people's money that was put into these organisations," said Osbourne.

Here at the Motley Fool, we're never afraid of criticising massive banking bonuses. In short, they are inappropriate, undeserved and far, far, far too big.

But if you want to get back at the bankers, there are several ways to do it…

  • Cap bonuses
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  • Defer bonuses for 3-5 years
  • Encourage increased competition

Getting back at the bankers by giving some people the opportunity to buy shares in a public offering just doesn't cut the mustard.

For one, many taxpayers will be totally wary of investing in the stock market, given what we've been through in the past 18 months and indeed, the past 10 years.

Also, many more taxpayers simply won't be able to afford to fork out hundreds or thousands of pounds in order to buy their banking shares on the cheap.

Free Money

Calling a public offering of discounted shares in RBS and Lloyds a "people's bonus" is nothing more than political electioneering. If the Conservatives, or any political party, are handing out free money, they'd be far better off sending us all a cheque or giving us all a tax cut.

I fully expect this particular hare-brained plan to slip quietly away as we get closer and closer to an election.

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The privatisations of years gone by, including BP (LSE: BP), British Telecom, now called BT Group (LSE: BT-A) and British Gas, now called BG Group (LSE: BG) encouraged millions of ordinary people to invest in the stock market. In general, the privatisations were a big success.

I bought my first ever shares via a privatisation, splashing out £800 to buy shares in Yorkshire Water way back in 1989. The shares jumped 40% on the first day of issue and I was well and truly converted.

Nice as it is, there is much more to share ownership than buying privatisation shares at a discount and watching them pop significantly higher on day one.

A Commitment To Investing

If you are going to take that very first step and buy your own shares, at the same time you should make a commitment to continued, regular, long-term share investment and ownership.

You might get lucky with your first purchase, as I did with Yorkshire Water, but plenty more weren't so lucky -- just ask shareholders in dot com darlings Interactive Investor and lastminute.com, both of whom floated at the peak of the market.

Those experiences highlight the need for a diversified portfolio. The easiest and cheapest way to achieve that goal is to invest in an index tracking fund or ETF like iShares FTSE 100 (LSE: ISF).

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Investing in quality companies trading at cheap prices is as good a recipe for long-term wealth generation as we know. Admittedly the last decade has not been good for stock market investors. But, the future is seemingly brighter, so now is not the time to give up on a time-tested strategy.

Shares in RBS and Lloyds will eventually be offered to the public, and the government of the time will ensure there are good incentives for the public to invest in the offering. But that will likely be many years down the track.

So today, forget the political posturing. Instead, renew your commitment to long-term saving and investing. Come retirement, you'll be glad you did.

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tiswas1 22 Feb 2010 , 11:04am

"Crass stunts" is very similar to the thoughts I had when I heard of this latest Tory idea. I really don't think I can bring myself to vote for them, no matter how desperate I am for a change of leader.

francisgroves 22 Feb 2010 , 12:01pm

Definitely a stunt and one that calls into question the Shadow Chancellor's credentials. True taxpayers have had to come to the rescue of RBS and Lloyds but Lloyds shareholders have lost billions of value as a result of the HBOS rescue. Any attempt by the government to sell off their stake to 'taxpayers' as a group at below the market price would surely depress the price and be unfair to existing shareholders.

Presumably, this morning's rising share price partly reflects the market's judgment that the Osborne sell-off won't happen.

Ballusbagus 22 Feb 2010 , 12:02pm

...and selling at a discount steals value from current share owners, i.e. taxpayers and private investors!!

RedundantHippie 22 Feb 2010 , 2:18pm

George Osbourne is a Snake Oil salesman. He is trying to flog to us what we have already paid for! If he were serious about his "peoples bonus" he should simply distribute our shares to us without any further charge - we have already bought these shares through taxation. If I wanted to buy shares in LBG or or RBS they are availalble at a knock down price on the LSE.
Is there an election due? May 6th for anyone interested.....

Mike10613 22 Feb 2010 , 2:46pm

Osbourne will do the usual Tory scam, overvalue them and then sell them at a discount. No need to worry...

timotley 22 Feb 2010 , 2:48pm

"Defer bonuses for 3-5 years to get back at the bankers" - Surely if a banker can manage to "scrape though" 3 - 5 years without bonuses how is that going to change anything. The banker will still get his bonus and after the deferred period he is back into a rolling program getting his bonus anyway each year, all be it delayed.

centrum100 22 Feb 2010 , 3:20pm

I hav been investing in the stock market for some years now and have made a little profit overall but do not feel that this is the right time to be getting heavily involved until the economic and political situation settles down after the election and the first budgets have been announced which should give a clearer view of the winning party's intentions.
If this latest ridiculous proposal is an indication of the Tories' ideas in general then I shall ensure that I avoid them on Polling Day. I have had misgivings about 'Boy George' for some time and this has only supported my scepticism. Vince Cable should be the next Chancellor as he is the only one with the business experience and expertise to take the job on successfully but of course he isn't in the right party. With a national debt of mammoth proportions it is going to take a bigger man than George or Alistair to solve this one. First things first though and we need to see some significant economic growth before any speculation in the Stock Markets can bear fruit.

john5074 22 Feb 2010 , 3:56pm

George Osbourne must think we're all FOOLS. If he got into power and was able to sell cheap shares in RBS & LBG - who would be first in the queue?
His Tory compatriots with very deep pockets who would buy up the shares in their tens of thousands; sit on them for a couple of years till the banks recover and then "make a killing". The man or woman in the stree who could afford to buy only a few shares would more than likely have to sell before they became profitable.

rober00 22 Feb 2010 , 4:56pm

Vinc e Cable? I thought so too, until his silly idea of a "mansion tax". Where did that come from!!!

blackbaron01 22 Feb 2010 , 5:13pm

This is a long way off, five years or so. I'm not sure though why the comments here are so negative. It's thanks to the tax payers that these banks are still here, so why should there not be an opportunity to buy the shares in the future for the general public?

The share ownership in this country has dropped markedly in recent years. The 1980's gave people opportunities to own shares, which I was one. I have no regrets doing so. Sure they are riskier that cash but speculate to accumulate and learn from your mistakes, as the Motley Fool canonises.

To say 'why should we pay for what we already own' is just nonsense. You are paying to buy from other people who effectively give up their right. Plenty complained in this way during privatizations of the past and then went quiet as their shares rose. A case of short term socialism. Of course not all were long term holds but again that's shares for you, riskier and needs managing.

Me thinks some are more worried about having their share values diminished through dilution rather than seeing this as an opportunity.

There and again it's an opportunity long in the future, but worth considering when it does.

nedsoar 22 Feb 2010 , 5:52pm

Surely it would be better to say that all banking (and why not ALL senior executive?)bonuses be paid in shares (in the person's company) which must not be negociable for five years.

seriousmoneyFool 22 Feb 2010 , 6:40pm

Hi Bruce. What would £800 pounds be roughly worth in today's money? You must have been confident with your own research by investing so much in your first share purchase.

mblack977 22 Feb 2010 , 9:02pm

It would be crazy for the government to sell these shares back at the moment and the talk of this happening is as the previous posters wrote is nothing but a political stunt. I do however see the shares being sold at a later date.
The announcment that these shares would be offered first to low income earners is also rediculous. Im not sure George Osbourne lives in the real world where people struggle from pay cheque to pay cheque let alone having the money aside to consider buying shares to then sell later at a profit.

Now here is a more noble plan. In Australia the government gave every low income earner $1000 to spend. They then gave everyone who lodged a tax return $1000 to spend. How about the government give back to the tax payers those shares and let them choose to either sell their holding which they would then spend back into the economy, buy more shares or even still sit and wait until the shares appreciate.

It was our tax that payed for this bailout we will fel the effects of it this year with but backs in the public sector now these cuts might be a bit easier to bear if we knew we would be eventually paid back. But, alas im sure what will happen is the shares will be sold, undervalued, the wealthy will buy them and the government will loose out for having sold them at a discout rate.

Very synical about the whole deal.

http://sharetraderuk.blogspot.com/

bimber 22 Feb 2010 , 10:03pm

I used to have £6 but Alistair made me spend it on a fiver from his chums in the city when their lavish lifestyle was in jeopardy. Now, as a bonus, George wants me to pay his chums in the city to sell my £5 to his chums in the shires for £4.

If you want to get back at the banksters, ban fractional reserves!

Max878 23 Feb 2010 , 3:19pm

blackbaron01 -
You ask why should there not be an opportunity to buy the shares in the future for the general public? The reason is that, as they were purchased with public money, the general public already own these shares. The Tories are planning to flog them off cheaply to a few who can afford them and some people who can't. They will then sell them off at a very small profit, or possibly a loss, to Mr Osborne's city chums. Brilliant!

Bimber put's it rather well, I think.

blackbaron01 24 Feb 2010 , 3:30pm

Max878. Thanks for your comments

The banks are no more publicly owned than someone who has just 'bought' a house with a mortgage. They may have the deeds but also owe a lot of money which one day has to be paid back (to the banks? sic), much like the 'owners' of certain football clubs.

I'm assuming that the plan of whoever gets in power at the next election is to pass the part public ownership of those banks back into private hands, when the time is right, to pay off the debt accumulated to bail them out. The general process will be the same whether the public have the 'benefit' of cheaper shares or not.

No I think its better to at least allow the public the opportunity to benefit as well. It won't happen for years of course but as the UK is running as big a budget deficit as Greece (% of GDP wise) something gotta give.

I applaud your cynicism, we are talking about politicians after all. Trouble is where is the brighter future? I can't see it. But for me you've got to start with the man with the hands on the wheel, and Brown has got to go.

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