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Should We Buy Foreign Index Trackers?

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By Neil Faulkner | 19 March 2008

I have followed The Fool for eight years, six of those prior to becoming a staff writer. I believe in the advice that The Fool produces, and this is mirrored in all my own financial decisions.

Logic shows why it makes no sense to gamble, and so I don't do so. Analysis shows that being loyal to one bank or one insurer leaves you vastly worse off, so I shop around. I save rather than borrow, because I understand that it means I'll be able to buy more stuff in the long run.

I track the stock market. The UK stock market. (There are two sorts of Foolish investor: those who track the market and those who pick shares. No one buys funds managed by other people!)

But I want to track other, more interesting markets: emerging markets. Now, this is outside the scope of old Foolish principles, so if I do so I will be diverging from our guidance - including my own - for the first time.

Is that so bad, you might ask? To me it is, because it is a deviation from mountains of data and tried-and-tested reasoning, which is what the Foolish tracking philosophy is all about.

I find myself justifying the idea of investing in emerging markets. Like this, for example: the vast amount of data that we base our reasoning on for tracking the UK market extends back to 1869. Since then, the West has been 'the power' in the world, but now it's likely that emerging markets will become the biggest economic powers. So shouldn't we be investing in them?

It sounds plausible, doesn't it? But the more rational part of me says that the growth of China, India, Brazil and the rest doesn't mean that the UK isn't allowed to grow. It's not their 'turn'; it doesn't work like that.

In fact, their growth will help us along as well, because they'll buy more of the stuff our businesses make. What's more, it doesn't mean that our stock market won't continue along the meandering but steady course of the fearless mountain climber, as it has done for the past 138 years.

(That is, a mountain climber who doubles back sometimes but doesn't climb all the way back down again...Metaphors aren't my forte.)

Perhaps I could argue instead that investing some money in foreign markets ensures our eggs are spread amongst different baskets? But that goes against conventional Foolish wisdom too: the FTSE All-Share is diverse already, because it includes tourism, technology, pharmaceuticals, insurance, construction, aerospace, mining, retail, and much else. Furthermore, many of the companies listed in the UK are from emerging markets, or at least they profit from growth in those countries by selling stuff to them.

Combine a UK tracker with an investment in property. (Even our own properties are an investment in that the long-term return is we won't have to pay rent or mortgage payments again.) Tracking a UK index and owning your own property gives you extraordinary diversity, thus satisfactorily limiting risks.

If I continue to argue for tracking foreign markets, my next point might be that emerging countries have the potential to do astoundingly well. This potential interests me. But where is the data? Where is the history?

These markets just have a lot of promise (although admittedly a great deal of it) and hype. But our own UK market has performed well in ¾ of all the five-year rolling periods for more than 100 years, and 9 times out of 10 over every 10-year rolling period. Emerging markets simply don't have such robust data to look back on.

(Rolling periods are, eg. 1931-1935, 1932-1936, 1933-1937 and so on.)

Why do we invest? 

It comes down to this: why do we invest in the stock market? I had this conversation with a colleague yesterday, an American. He agreed that in the US people invest because they're thinking of their long-term wealth: their future and retirement.

Here in the UK, my colleague and I agreed that people invest because they want to make lots of money very quickly. The reason most people here don't invest at all (other than because they're ludicrously in debt), is that they don't want to risk their money in order to get rich quick.

But the American attitude is much healthier. Investing isn't (only) about getting rich quick. And it's not necessarily about taking big risks. It's about making decent gains over the long term. By investing modest sums regularly in a UK tracker we can expect, over time, to snowball a fair pot of money. If it doesn't make us rich, it should make us comfortable.

I will never say that tracking emerging markets (by which I do of course mean to include ETFs) is a poor decision. It's just that we can't justify it using all of The Fool's extensive research into tracking. Some of it, but not all.

If we find statistics for emerging markets that are even a fifth as robust as those we have for the UK then investors with my philosophy can justify investing in foreign trackers.

The project I have for this year is to see what data there is and, if possible, make a Foolish recommendation to track an emerging market. It won't be easy, not least because quality trackers in those countries are hard to find.

Personally, I won't cry if I never invest in anything exciting.

> You can buy a range of Legal & General trackers, both for the UK and worldwide, via The Fool.

Comments

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At 23:11 on March 20 2008, castath said:

I would look at how volatile the emerging markets can be, the currency issues and the higher charges. I look forward to your research as I don't have the time. I know that you would not generally consider stop losses but considering the volatility there may be a case.

At 07:00 on March 23 2008, martynemh said:

I believe that Islamic banks, such as some in Malaysia, by not dealing with interest-bearing instruments, avoided any tainting of their funds by sub-prime loans. That should give their economies a certain 'edge' over the western countries... Surely? Am I right? Anyone else have a view, pls?

At 09:31 on March 23 2008, Rebtech said:

martynemh, unless you think avoiding interest is generally a good thing to do, or another crisis is looming, that Islamic bank "edge" exists only until the sub-prime damage has been accounted for and the credit crunch relaxes.

At 13:44 on March 23 2008, anshah said:

So is the author suggesting a universal guideline to investing here that people from a certain country are better off tracking their own markets or is this article mainly for the UK investor? In other words if I am an Indian and I live in India, is it a good idea for me to track only the Indian stock market? Would the UK FTSE 100 be too exciting for me?

At 13:46 on March 23 2008, anshah said:

And another thing..at first the author mentions in the title "foreign" trackers, but later switches between foreigna nd emerging..but foreign markets are not only restricted to emerging are they? Is it stupid to invest in say a US tracker or a European tracker?

At 16:20 on March 23 2008, Rebtech said:

anshah, on your first point, I'd say the article is clearly aimed at the UK investor, and I'm sure the author would recommend UK index trackers as good investments for anyone. On your second point: that's a very good question.

At 16:33 on March 23 2008, Rebtech said:

Why say "nobody buys funds"? Surely they're a good compromise between the riskiness and the research effort required for shares, and the relatively boring index trackers. Do we have to pretend that our own judgement is either better than anyone's or no good at all? Most of my money's in funds just now and that's very likely to remain the case, unless somebody can produce a convincing argument??

At 17:49 on March 23 2008, pathdocall said:

Neil, before you begin your research, may I inform you that there is a burgeoning literature on what is one of the puzzles of macroeconomics called the home bias of investors:

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/homebias.asp

It is a mystery to members of the academic community why investors exhibit the bias toward domestic as opposed to foreign investments when portfolio risk can (obviously) be better diversified by investing in a greater variety and number of securities.

Other problems with your position:
You quote a wonderfully long UK stockmarket time series, and point out that 3/4 of the time I will do well when making a 5 year investment, 9/10ths for ten years, but surely, the oldest adage in finance is that past performance is not necessarily a guide to future performance or am I being foolish?

Moreover, when were the sequences of poor returns observed? What if thy were they one after the other ie serially correlated? In the worst case with a sample of 100 years, there are 96 rolling periods, we would have 96-3/4*96=96-72=24 that is 28 years of bad performance, now I am 32 now, so if this were the beginning of a sequence of poor rolling periods I would be 61 be the time I saw the result of a good rolling period.

Now I agree the above worst case scenario is unlikely, but you have assumed that bad performances are just as likely to show up in any given year. I don't have the data, but I bet that there was a significantly long sequence of poor performances in the 1930s let alone the 1940s when the war was on. If one had invested in both Germany and the US as well as the UK during the thirties and forties, I bet you would have done better than a UK only tracker as Germany thrived in the thirties and the US did even better in the 1940s.

What's more, in the early part of the last century, the US was considered an emerging market, in fact I expect that even in the 1950s there were people wondering whether the emergence of the dominant US economy was something one could rely upon, whereas the tried and tested European markets of Europe that had been around for three or four centuries were surely much more trustworthy.

Your position suggests that you are a passive investor (trackers) that is unwilling to take risk (invest in UK only), that's fine, but remember the quote by Mark Twain:

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

I think this quote goes to the heart of the matter when it comes to investments and in particular those who claim emerging markets are a foolish investment in comparison to the developed ones.

In essence I agree with the criticisms of anshah and I like the active thinking of martynemh - thanks for the tip.

At 18:23 on March 23 2008, pathdocall said:

Rebtech, statistically speaking, Neil is right to say that actively managed funds underperform passively managed funds (trackers). This is especially the case when costs are accounted for.

Moreover, trackers are only as boring as the market, and I would beg to differ in the current climate :o)

I think that unless you are wealthy enough to invest in a variety of hedge funds which have access to the full range of investment strategies (they can sell as well as buy stocks as well as make money from high volatility) then you are probably (though not certainly) better off with a tracker.

However, these days there is a great intermediate option, and that is Exchange Traded Funds. I am trying to get to know them at the moment. They offer what active managers do at a lower cost 0.5% instead of 3 or 4%.

At 18:34 on March 23 2008, pathdocall said:

In market lingo good active managers offer Alpha - that is returns that are uncorrelated with the market and is special to the selection of firms the manager is invested in.

An example of a good active manager is one that knows alot about small tech firms or other niche markets and they can make exceptional returns by using their superior (in comparison to rest of the market participants) knowledge of the sector.

If you know that your manager has knowledge that few others have then you're onto to something. The problem is that most people don't, and usually they are just listening to their "Independent" Financial Advisor.

By going for actively managed funds you are essentially saying well I don't know enough about stock markets but I do know alot about fund managers and so I therefore pick a good fund manager and let him deal with the stock market for me. If so then I would love to know the name of your fund managers if your not an expert on fund managers either then I recommend trackers or ETFs.

Good luck!

At 18:52 on March 23 2008, pathdocall said:

ps Correction: in my summary of hedge funds I meant take negative as well as positive positions in stocks as all funds can buy and sell.

Happy Easter!

At 10:30 on March 24 2008, Rebtech said:

pathdocall, thanks very much for this. I don't know about fund managers, but I know someone who certainly seems to, execution-only stockbroker Hargreaves Lansdown, who also refund the initial charge and part of the recurring charge in most cases. In addition to the usual kinds of research, they actually meet with fund managers on a regular basis, and move funds in and out of the preferred group (the "Wealth 150") on the basis of their findings. (This might read like an advert but I'm not associated with them in any way other than as a satisfied customer.) However, I might very well put money into one or more trackers through them, though of course they can't offer discounts on trackers as they do on funds. The advantage of doing it all through them is simplified admin, such as one on-line portal and one tax statement covering all investments.

At 14:46 on March 24 2008, mbga8dmf said:

Pathdocall,

Whilst I generally agree with your opinions and sentiment, you seem to be somewhat unclear on the function of EFT's. You say that "they offer what active managers do at a lower cost". I am a massive fan of EFT's, and use them extensively. They are, however, by definition, "tracker" products. They are not actively managed in any way! They do, however, offer access to various markets and asset classes at very low cost and in many cases provide the only means by which you can "track" a given index/asset. And they don't even attract stamp duty!

Rebtech,

I too am fan of H&L. They are about as good a fund supermarket as you can get at the moment to purchase Unit Trust's/OEIC's. However, it is important to appreciate that they only exist on the back of the renewal commission that they make out of YOU.

As such, they will be distinctly unenthusiastic about allowing you to invest in trackers/EFT's - there is no renewal commission! Infact, they actually chart .05% + VAT to allow you to hold most trackers, and certainly to hold ETF's. Thus, you are probably better off hunting down a low cost broker like AllianceTrust to hold such investments.

This is also the reason that we hear little about Investment Trusts compared to UT's/OEIC's. Again, they pay no commission to an IFA, and as such, are not pushed. This is despite the fact that they almost always outperform UT's/OEIC's, and sometimes to a significant extent!! This is a perfect example of the distinct conflict of interest you face with a so-called IFA.....

Good luck with your investing!

At 12:49 on March 25 2008, Rebtech said:

mbga8dmf, thanks, that's helpful.

At 13:07 on March 25 2008, AstonV8 said:

I beg to differ with the last post..... Not all ETF's are trackers. They may have a broad aim to track certain countries but many do so by selecting a limited number of stocks across a number of different national exchanges. There is therefore a management / selection risk and you could, for example, weight high/low to a particular market by choosing similar but competing emerging market ETFs.

At 14:58 on March 25 2008, pathdocall said:

mbga8dmf,
my confusion over ETFs is there for good reasons :o) see the Economist, March 1st-7th 2008: Special Report on Asset Management.

The point I was trying to make was that ETFs offer returns that may be uncorrelated with the market, or ETFs that replicate (in an automated way) the strategies of active managers. See the Economist for more on this.

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